Any advice for a new 3807 owner?

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Happy Holidays!

Just recently I traded my 3207 on an '87 3807 w/Crusaders. During the four years I owned the 3207 I restored the boat from top to bottom: New interior & exterior carpet, audio system, canvas, teak restoration, bridge seating, recovered the couch, etc. I am looking forward to doing the same with the 3807!

Are there any issues with this year and model boat that I need to watch out for - anything that should be addressed first? It is currently in storage for the winter and about to go into the heated shop for service.

All my best,

Jeff
 
The 3807 was a pretty trouble free boat. As you know, it doesn't have any wood in the stringer system, so you're good there. I'd say...pick an area and have at it. Those are beautiful boats btw...LOVE the space they afford in the cabin!
 
I appreciate the reply and the advice. I think that's exactly what I'll do. Priority number one is addressing the pink Formica.
 
oooohhhh pink formica...I got lucky...mine's dark blue. yes...deep 6 the pink it'll update the boat decades!
 
Congrats! I have had my 3807 since August of 2000. I have never had a problem except for the A/C unit in the main salon and I had to replace the starboard fuel tank. It had 520 hours on the Crusader big blocks and I am real close to 2000 at this time. I never have had to add oil to either engine.

Since owning the boat we have had new drapes, carpet inside and bridge, new canvas, reupholstered everyting and I replaced the aft deck privacy shields using white plexi instead of the smoke grey.

I have learned about the boat and may be able to save you time. If you have any questions send me an email and if I can help I will be glad to.
 
Thanks for the info and offers for help! I am counting down the days until spring.

The counters are in great condition, unfortunatly just the wrong color. I have been laminating new formica over the old using directions and the adhesive reccomended by the Formica Corp. So far, so good - it looks great! The hardest part is (carefully) removing the plugs on the teak trim.
 
on mine too, I must have 60 feet of plugged teak.
 
Where do you get the directions from formica for laminating over the old?
 
I think the best place to look would be the can of adhesive, it should tell you about surface prep, temperature, and technique. If I remember right, Formica manufactures this product as well (or at least markets).

Enjoy the fumes!

Jim
 
Just be careful - some idiot did our kitchen counters at home a few years back, used some crappy glue and the things started coming apart. It took us years to rectify the problem, if we ever completely did...
 
There is a Technical Brief available in PDF format from the Formica Website.
 
Jeff,

Where is your 38 currently stored? We keep ours in Sheboygan. We have a 89'. I believe I was aboard my boat back in 1989 when I worked for Carver engineering. The 38 is a great boat as you'll find out more this Summer. One tip would be if you're going to redo the interior see if you can gain access to the midship cleats. They're a bit of a pain to tighten when they loosen up. This winter removing and sealing a leak in the starboard aluminum waste tank(outboard of the frig below the storage compartment floor)is our latest project.

Don
 
On my previous 34 Trophy convertible I had a similar pink/mauve countertop. When I tore out all the soft goods and refit the interior I used a WilsonArt laminate. I roughed the pink stuff with 80 grit, cleaned it with acetone and used a 3M contact cement(not the spray). I did this in the galley and forward stateroom with excellent results. I made cardboard templates and left the stove and cooktop in place and only removed the sinks. The second stateroom I covered the pink with teak veneer using the same technique. I have the off white countertops in our 38 and have thought of upgrading to cored solid surface.
 
Don,

My 3807 will be docked at the Abbey Marina on Geneva Lake. I appreciate the advice and will look into the midship cleats.

When did they switch to aluminum waste tanks? It appears as if mine are plastic. Speaking of which, retrofitting vacuflush will be another project for the future.
 
Jeff,

From my experience with the 38, all the tanks (2)fuel, (2)water & (2) waste are aluminum. There is a possiblity that the previous owner had a leak and replaced them with a poly tank. If a aluminum tank develops a leak there's a good chance the tank will corrode before the leak is noticed due to the tank on wood base installations Carver uses. If the tanks would have air flow beneath chances would be reduced by quite a bit. But laying the tank on a platform is cost effective and is still done today. I was with Carver again in the late 90's into the 2000's as naval architect, the newer models there are some positive system changes but for the most part remain unchanged. Overall with Carver, looking through the years one can see the different hull designs & overall design that each designer brought in to the company. The 38 hull is very similar to the 42. This started changing in 1989-1992 when a new designer depended the deadrise (3557,3467,3608,3307 etc) then on to current designs. I could go on forever...

Do you have access to your boat now to make patterns?
 
The boat is stored inside and they are very good about letting me in to work on it. For the last week it has been in the heated facility getting the oil changed, waxed, etc.
 
That'll make it really nice to work on the boat being inside heated. We currently keep ours outside shrink wrapped, the heated storage buildings in Sheboygan are a ways away and there are low wires so until they bury them it doesn't make much sense at this time. It would be great to tackle our waste tank issue in a temp above freezing.

Is your interior the pastel colored fabric & carpet along with the pink counter tops?
 
You've got it right; Pink counters and pastel drapes, etc. I am slowly tackling one item at a time. I hope that it was cutting-edge for the first owner in ’87, because it sure is cumbersome to replace now.
 
Cutting edge in 87' sure can cause ones eyes to spin now days. Our boat has the nuetral interior. Off white countertops, beige carpet and hull/deck liner. I had looked at a few other boats before settling on the one we have trying to determine how much time it would take judging from past refits I've done to redo one. Since Carver's are partially done with the deck off like most production boats there are some tricky areas to tackle. Do you have photos of your previous 32? If so, we could trade some ideas. Our email is seanut at charter dot net. The Trophy I did recently I upgraded to current trends. I worked a number of years with Burger as well and brought some of the larger yacht decor ideas in to it.

Don
 
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