Taking advantage of this fall heat wave, took some friends and spent the afternoon on Saturday anchored at Mandeville Tip. Could not believe all jerks who were tearing through the anchorage - sending wakes to all the boats anchored. Surprisingly, there were not a alot of boats but enough to let folks know this is an anchorage. Don't remember seeing this before. Is this the sign of the times of the delta .... people just don't care any more?
Idiots at Mandeville Tip this past weekend
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I put it down to plain old ignorance or total lack of concern for other boaters, but mainly stupidity. You cannot drive a car without lots of lessons and testing but anyone idiot can get behind the wheel of a boat. My own wake rules are simple. When I enter a no wake zone, I slow down to idle, when I pass a small fishing boat on a narrow slough where there is no speed limit, I slow down to idle because my wake can cause lots of trouble and even injury to folks in a 14 ft aluminum. If I am on a wide slough and a small boat is on the other side, I keep my boat a far as possible on the other side and proceed at speed. When I am on the water, I am never in a hurry, thats why I'm there. Just a little common sense and knowing the rules of the road will go a long way in handling a boat.
DBH
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I stopped going to Mandeville Island, which had been my favorite anchorage in the 1990s, because of that kind of behavior! It is my opinion that most of rude folks there are out of Disco Bay. They consider it their private playground.
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Flutterby,
I'm surprised that you would point a finger at DB. Heck, I could resemble that remark having lived there for almost three years. I think you are also thinking of what we called Horseshoe Bend not Mandeville Tip. I don't know too many Discoverry Bay folks that go that far. I attribute tuis incident to ignorant folks with smaller boats that don't realize that the wakes from their little boats can affect big boats. Most boaters are good people that don't intentionally act like idiots, they are usually just ignorant.
I'm surprised that you would point a finger at DB. Heck, I could resemble that remark having lived there for almost three years. I think you are also thinking of what we called Horseshoe Bend not Mandeville Tip. I don't know too many Discoverry Bay folks that go that far. I attribute tuis incident to ignorant folks with smaller boats that don't realize that the wakes from their little boats can affect big boats. Most boaters are good people that don't intentionally act like idiots, they are usually just ignorant.
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I was anchored out at Lake Berryessa this weekend and seen the same idiot behavior. In a smallish cove and twice had wakeboarders come in and u-turn within 100' of the boat. Ridiculous. Your right in that people just do not care any more.
Dave,
The location is Mandeville Island. You know, the large "lake" created when Mandeville Island flooded way back in the 1980s. I'll stand by my comments.
It is NOT ignorance when someone ties up their 36ft trawler in a manner which prevents others from anchoring with 50 ft of his boat on a Thursday and stays until Monday every summer weekend using multiple anchors in 6 feet of calm water.
This is just one example of many I saw which made me finally give up going there at all. My experience at Horseshoe Bend has always been positive except it was often too hot for me without any breeze.....
Liz,
I believe you are referring to Mildred Island which flooded back in the 80's. Mandeville Island is still high and dry to the best of my knowledge plus the original poster referred to anchoring at Mandeville Tip
I have found crow to taste best when simmered in a nice white wine sauce! Boy you take a girl's boat away and she instantly forgets all the landmark's names. [:-mischievous]
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Most of the rude folks from Disco Bay hang out in the South Delta around Victoria Canal, bikini beach, and Union Point. Mandeville Tip and Mildred Island for that matter is too choppy and too far away from the bars to make going out there much sense. More than likely you ran into some tweakers from Bethel Island.
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You speak the truth!
We first moved to Disco Bay in 1981. There were jerks there then and there are jerks there now... Trust me, that will never change!
Add to that, the newbie "testosterone and silicone" crowd that seems to fluctuate with the tide just adds insult to injury to the rep of Disco Bay folks. Others are clueless to the (well deserved) rep that has been built over the years...
Known or not, that "rep" is very well deserved. I felt the need to finally tear up my DBYC membership card due to the idiots that drove their "yachts" like a bunch of drunken sailors on the way to the various overnight club cruises.
I have been boating the Delta since '67. You would be hard pressed to find a more considerate and safety conscious skipper than me (toots own horn). I was never more embarrassed (and shocked) with what I saw the "leaders" of the DBYC do with their boats! The owners of the Bullfrog Landing HATED the DBYC with a passion! DBYC'ers would plow past the marina throwing a wake like there was no tomorrow and not even think twice about it. I watched in horror as our "leaders" would churn up the slough's without any regard for the small skiffs that were fishing along the tule islands. Some even had kids aboard! Courtesy didn't exist...
Back when the club was small and housed in two of the Boardwalk storefronts it was a bearable crowd. But once the new club facility was built and the membership drive was kicked into high gear, things changed (and sadly, for the worse).
Heck, even Hal Schell had folks writing to him and complaining about the DBYC'ers. Heated conversations about Disco Bay'ers were the norm at local watering holes.
Add the (T & S) newbie crowd to the mix and you have a recipe for disaster. So as much as I hate confirming the FACT that some Disco Bay folks have spoiled it for the rest, it is a reality that Disco Bay residents have to live with.
Whether they admit it or not...
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It was Mildred Island that flooded when the levee broke and created the "new lake" that got very popular with the cruisers from Disco Bay.
One of our favorite fishing holes and overnighting spots was within 100 yards from that break.
Our Sea Ray Club was one of the first "organized" groups to regularly anchor out there. Plenty of others soon followed...
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[/quote]Most of the rude folks from Disco Bay hang out in the South Delta around Victoria Canal, bikini beach, and Union Point. Mandeville Tip and Mildred Island for that matter is too choppy and btoo far away from the bars to make going out there much sense.
More than likely you ran into some tweakers from Bethel Island.
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Post Lost Isle maybe! [:-bonc01]
The "tweakers" from Methel Island have boats that can go fast enough to throw wakes??? [:-shake][:-drunk]
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More than likely you ran into some tweakers from Bethel Island.
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Post Lost Isle maybe! [:-bonc01]
The "tweakers" from Methel Island have boats that can go fast enough to throw wakes??? [:-shake][:-drunk]
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Yup. They come from all walks of life too. Whether it's the elitest corporate type with his cruiser or the peckerwoods in their white trash cigarette boats, Discovery Bay pumps out a steady stream into the Delta every weekend.
Follow that up with their tanned and tattooed spawn getting wasted on Bud Light while piloting their floating boom boxes; the first thing I want to do is get as far away as possible.
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Would any of you consider that the bad behavior of which you speak is because, due to budget cuts, the dreaded 'blue meanies' are not there to encourage proper behavior? I am confident that this is the reason.
Bill (retired meanie)
Bill (retired meanie)
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3 jurisdictions patrolled the area of Mandeville Tip; 4 if you add the Coast Guard. Mildred does not border multiple jurisdictions.
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The term, "Blue Meanies" evolved during the Berzerkley riots since the Alameda County Sheriff's Deputy's wore blue jumpsuits.
Are you retired from ACSO???