Beware if you're insured by BoatUS

AbsoLoot

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I talked with fellow boater last night about a recent incident. I'm hoping that Phil will weigh in with a report as well.

These friends keep their boat at a well known marina/restaurant on the Mokelumne River. He stayed Monday night on the boat a couple of weeks ago. Late the following Friday night, they got a phone call at home from the USCG asking about how many people were on board their boat. Replying that there were none and the boat was moored in its slip. They were shocked to learn that the boat had been stolen, stripped and sunk in the deep water channel between Decker Island and Rio Vista.

Apparently no one from the marina or their security department noticed the boat being taken so they are not sure when it was stolen, but the engines showed 24 hours of running time. The dirtbags had stripped everything of value from the boat including stove, refrigerator, generator, electronics, dinghy, etc. They aren't sure why the boat had been sunk, but the thieves had cut the hoses from the thru hulls and scuttled her. This was a 28' Bayliner and it contained enough flotation to prevent it from sitting on the bottom, but apparently it went just below the surface. A rock barge had passed over doing additional damage to the exterior.

The boat was actually discovered by another tug/barge going downstream that spotted it on their depth sounder and reported it to the USCG.

Now for the sad part ..... They had recently switched insurance coverage to BoatUS and thought they had everything covered. Their previous coverage included separate amounts for personal property, the dinghy, electronics, etc. and they had asked for an equivalent policy. When they submitted their claim, BoatUS informed that the dollar amount on the policy was the total coverage and included everything on board. The wife went back and checked the actual policy and found that to be true, BUT she tells me that the actual policy differs from the emails she was sent when making the decision to go with them. When she received the actual policy, she didn't read it and just filed it away, her bad. Long story short, they received barely enough money to pay off the loan on the boat.

I haven't seen any of the paperwork associated with this and she should have read her policy, but I would encourage any of you insured with BoatUS to pull out your policy and give it a good read now. It's a lot easier to make a change now rather than when you have experienced a loss.
 
So sorry to hear of your friend's misfortune! I think it may be wrong to blame Boat US over any other insurance carrier. If she still has the emails, then she should inform the Boat US officials that she was mislead, so corrective action can be taken internally. But their obligation is to meet the letter of the policy only. I don't know of any insurance carrier which will do more then what the policy stipulates.
 
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Originally posted by AbsoLoot




I agree with FB. It's your responsibility to check the policy. Sometimes it's a "better deal" because the coverage isn't exactly the same. For example, I have BoatUS, and if I trailer out of the S.F. Bay Area/Delta I have to get a $25 rider or my policy isn't valid. Since I don't, I can save a little each year. After a while it adds up. JMHO.
 
All my boats are/have been insured with BOAT/US. Every policy has the first line under coverages list as "AL Boat and boating equipment" then an amount, which is the basic insured value. Other lines are for "liability, investigative services, medical, "longshoremen's and harbor workers' Compensation", boat trailer, unisured boater and "Personal Effects".

The "boating equipment" would include the dinghy, electronics, and all the stuff that was part of the boat as delivered. If that line doesn't contain a value that is basically what you think your boat is worth then you don't have enough coverage.

My coverage for "personal effects" is very small, only $500. This would cover items that are not a part of the boat, such as pot & pans, bedding, etc. While I am sure that $500 wouldn't even come close to covering all the junk I have aboard I am not expecting the insurance to be a zero loss thing. Carrying too much insurance is expensive in terms of the annual premium so I don't insure for more than the actual value of the vessel and have a significant deductible.

The only loss I have submitted to insurance was when my PWC was stolen a couple of years ago. The value listed on line "A" of my premium was the "blue book" value of the PWC. That minus the deductible is what BOAT/US paid me. Just what I expected.

Rod
 
Since the book value of my boat wouldn't even begin to get me a replacement and I have no loans against it, I just carry liability insurance. Saves me a bunch of money and keeps my marina happy.
 
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Originally posted by Flutterby

Since the book value of my boat wouldn't even begin to get me a replacement





I don't understand that argument. You should be able to buy a similar boat (simlar size and year, even brand, and in similar condition) for whatever the book value is.
 
I doubt I would want a boat that cost $7k.......except the one I have which I bought brand new 15 yrs ago.........in my heart, she is irreplaceable!
 
Agree with Flutter - A Book Value car/boat may be same Year/make and have same miles/hours, but that's where similarity ends if the lost vehicle was cared for like most of us seem to, and the replacement is an auction special.
 
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Originally posted by j-d

Agree with Flutter - A Book Value car/boat may be same Year/make and have same miles/hours, but that's where similarity ends if the lost vehicle was cared for like most of us seem to, and the replacement is an auction special.




You got it! That's why you might want to go with an "agreed to" value instead of just the book value. If you haven't had any claims and are a member of USCGA or USPS you can get it insured at a reasonable cost.
 
There's many that take care of their boats very well, you're not the only one. I'm sure a boat can be replaced for whatever it's worth, although of course it's "sentimental" value can't be accounted for. But if your boat is so well taken care of then it's value is higher than "standard book value" and it should be reflected in an agreed value policy.
 
Basically, except for liability, I am "self insured". I save $$$ that would otherwise go to an insurance company and use those funds to help me maintain my boat to the standard I want.
 
I agree with everyone above who said that the owner is responsible for reading their policy and insuring to the proper limits. I also think that an Agreed Value policy is the only way to go. I posted this mainly because this friend claims that the policy she received was different from the email correspondence that she recieved when choosing. Not sure if it was her mistake or theirs, but I think it's worth pulling out your policy to be sure that yours says what you think it does.
 
Thanks, I pulled out the Policy I have with BoatUS and it is exactly what they qouted on.

ps: I did read the policy when it came to besure it was as outlined in their quote.
 
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