Burning waste in head discharge rules

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My new dock neighbor says his toilet burns the waste. Never heard of this. He said he burns it.

So before I started screaming at him, I did some research and couldn't find anything other than a toilet called a Incinolet. I will have to get the exact model from him.

Anyway, what would be the ruling on this?

I just looked further at the incolet and it looks like it is self contained. So it burns it and it does not get dumped into the bay, rather into the garbage. So I guess that is okay for the environment if that is what he has.
 
There are actually quite a few incinerating toilets on the market. They are classified as a Type III MSD, just like a holding tank:

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/cg5213/msd.asp

Are you in an NDZ? If so, a Type III is all you have for options.
 
Theoretically they leave nothing behind other than sterile ash. No holding tank to worry about and not much to maintain. Some people apparently scatter it in their gardens.
 
Seems like they would use LOTS of power. So, unless your at the dock or running the generator while it cycles you couldn't use it.

Bob
 
Incinolet states their product uses 15 amps at 120v when cycling. Yeah, that'll drain the batteries if the inverter can even keep up that is. 1,800 watts is quite a bit.
 
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Originally posted by mixman

Incinolet states their product uses 15 amps at 120v when cycling. Yeah, that'll drain the batteries if the inverter can even keep up that is. 1,800 watts is quite a bit.

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How long does a burn cycle take?

Bob
 
Good question, and the answer really rules this out for non-dockside marine use.

From: http://www.incinolet.com/incinoletmanualhi.pdf

When you push the start button, heater and blower both come on. Heater alternates off and on for an hour. Blower stays
on for an additional 30 to 55 minutes.

If I was forced to get rid of my Type I system (which, with the new information leaked from EPA about how well they really work, I doubt it), I'd probably consider a composting head. Although I think they need 12v all the time for vent fans. Air Head or Nature's Head are the two I've heard of. Taking a dump into a coffee filter would take some getting used to though!
 
We have one in our dockominum.
Works great, cycle time is about 35 minutes.
The factory is in Dallas.A couple years ago I was able do tour the factory.
Interesting part is their largest market is Japan.
They are not designed for boats but you might see one
on a large house boat with a big generator.
Abouttime
 
I have seen composting heads where all that is left is the urine in a small container and the #2 turns into Peatmoss. Some units boil off the urine.
To much trouble for my likes.
Bill
 
Kurt the composting heads are also really made for remote cabins that at least have gray discharge field or tanks. There are models that burn off the urine. They draw almost no current but they can also get overloaded quickly. I looked extensively at them and decided they were not an option. They are also quite heavy and large. The price for the composting heads starts at $2k.
Bill
 
I know the one's I looked at seemed very efficiant. The only real power needed is for the fan. It's the units that take care of Urine as well as #2 that are still a problem.
They seperate the 2 and expect you to dispose of the Urine by flushing it at in the nearest toilet. If I had a boat with 2 heads I might try one otherwise forget it.
Bill
 
As has been previously stated, the Incinolet uses AC power (115v) and draws 15 amps when it's burning the waste during the 35 minute burn cycle. It requires a vent going up through the top of the boat (read: chimney) and you definitely don't want to be downwind of it while it's burning - won't smell like toasted marshmallows.
 
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