Chartplotter/Fishfinder systems

Scott99163

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Hi All, I just inherited a 1981 3007 aft cabin. I am thinking of adding a Chartplotter/fishfinder system and I have no idea where to start. I am thinking about spending $2500.00. Is this to little or about right?. I will be out in the San Juans Island and Sequim (WA) area mostly. Any suggestions and help I can get would be great.

Thank you,

Scott
 
You could go with the Raymarine C series, or the Raymarine A65. Both systems will let you add things on later if you choose, but the C series is more expandable. The units are both very user friendly and intuitive.
 
I have an '82 3007 which is in Brownsville for the winter. Summers, she's in Friday Harbor. As to your question, I went with a Standard Horizon and seperate fishfinder for the flybridge. Lower helm, I use my Thinkpad laptop with an older version of Nobeltec (got cheap off E-bay) with free charts. I think it's a perfect setup because you have redundant systems. The laptop could be upstairs in a pinch.

Now....I would do it differently with a combo unit upstairs. I prefer Garmin and have one on my 22 footer. I do have a Garmin 172C with internal attennae for sale if interested. $300. (I bought it originally for the 22 footer but never used it. It had an external attennae).

Anyway, there is no reason to spend a fortune on the electronics. Additionally, the laptop receiver is a broadband device from Sprint that serves both as a gps and broadband receiver. So....we're on-line at DSL speeds where ever we travel in the Sound. It works seamlessly with Nobeltech and MS Streets and Maps. Service is $60/mo., $30 for the receiver.

Hope this helps.
 
I want to say thank you for the suggestions. I will start researching your different items. I think I want a Chartplotter, Fishfinder and most likely a radar. I will hopefully find something that will not break the bank.

Scott
 
the Raymarine C series can handle all of those options...and isn't priced too badly either
 
On your suggestion I think you're right. Raymarine makes top notch equipment and I like the look of the C80 or the C120. I also will likely add the radar now too.

cheers

Scott
 
I have a RayMarine C-80 with GPS and chartplotter, then went way overboard by adding a fishfinder, radar, and then added NMEA2000 networking with sensors for the Bennett trim tabs, tank level monitors; NMEA0183 networking with multiplexed Automatic Identification System (AIS) Receiver, fast fluxgate compass, and DSC radio, and topped it off with ST60+ graphic and Lowrance LMF-200 NMEA2000 displays.

And that is just for starters.

I am up to about $6K, but you certainly don't need to go that far overboard. But it is a good example of the expandibility of the RayMarine C-Series, especially when interfacing with different brand equipment.

Here is a diagram if anyone is interested: http://members.toast.net/boatguy/projectb.jpg.

Everything is installed and working except for the fuel flow meters - which is my project for next year.

There are other brands out there besides RayMarine, but go look at any marina, and you'll see that RayMarine/Raytheon is on 90% of the radomes. They seem to be the system of choice.
 
WOW.....thats some setup. You are right on not needing all that electronics. My thought is the chartplotter/fishfinder, radar....and down the road maybe fuel flow meters. So based on your chart can I add a second display for the upper helm? I did look at some garmin items today. Such as the 5012 model. You are very correct in regards to most boats having RayMarine/Raytheon. So what size boat did you put all this electronics on?
 
I need to make the distinction that with the C-80, it is a "stand-alone" display. The E-80 on the other hand can be shared so that each display will show the identical or different readouts, such as full images of a chartplotter, radar, fish finder, and so on.

This is accomplished by a point-to-point high-speed ethernet connection between the E series displays. The C series displays have no such function.

What the C-80 display can give you though is descrete data output to other instruments, displayed by ether via ST60+, ST70, or other brand display unit such as Maretron, is a digital readout of certain parameters, such as speed, depth, heading, and so on.

But each manufacturer's display has its own set of what it can display, and that is one issue still with NMEA2000 and other networkable devices, so their selection is somewhat dependant on what your display needs are.

Think of it in these terms. Anything that is high-bandwidth like radar displays, chartplotting, or sonar is going to require two hi-end displays, such as interconnected E-80s at each helm station.

But the low-bandwidth data, such as speed, depth, heading, fuel flow; any data that can be displayed as a gauge or digital readout can be transmitted to another display via NMEA2000, Seatalk, or NMEA0183 (pick your poison) at another helm via C-80.

So if you interconnected two C-80s by NMEA or Seatalk, you would only be able to share data such as the gauge type; depth, speed, heading, etc. But if you interconnect two E-80s by high-speed ethernet, you can share radar images, sonar display, and chartplotter data.

I want to make sure you understand the difference.

And to "confuse" the matter further, if you connect a sonar module (DSM300 for instance) to a C-80, it will display the typical graphic sonar image on the C-80, and also transmit depth only data via NMEA2000 or Seatalk.

So you could have the C-80 at one helm displaying the graphic depth sounder image, and a simple graphic readout of just depth (from the C-80) on a display instrument at the other helm. Make sense?

Unfortunately, two E-80s are way above the dollar amount you mentioned, so just the caveat that you won't have two helm displays capable with full images of radar, sonar, and so on.

My setup is on a 1995 Carver 325 with flybridge only (no lower helm).

Here is a tour of my Nav Setup - a bit more detail than the drawing.

http://members.toast.net/boatguy/navpkg.htm

If you look at my setup, you'll notice that I have a graphic display adjacent to the C-80. Its purpose is a dedicated display to display important data, such as Depth rather than having to rely on a tiny depth display on the C-80, as it can get pretty crowded with the data it can display.

So in a sense, I am offloading some of the more important readings from the C-80. As the C-80 is the only depth gauge on the boat, it is important to be able to see it at all times. I can setup both the ST60+ and the Lowrance LMF-200 to read such as that.

By the way, although this might be a bit overboard, it is nonetheless very necessary; at least to me... [;)
 
i've got a navman chartplotter with an external antenna, the chartplotter itself easily disconnects from the cradle. over the winter, i'm adding a second cradle and wiring for the lower helm. total cost of the unit was about $800. it does not have fishfinder or radar but you can add a fuel flow function. if you're looking for separate components with a chartplotter that's easily moveable, it's an option.
 
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