Clearing clogged toilet sanitation hose

Ricketts

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I have an electric Jabsco head with raw (salt) water flush. The flushing motion got progressively slower (to drain the bowl) until it clogged completely.I squeezed the sanitation hose with pliers along its length to break away any calcium build-up on the inside of the hose. I then removed the hose at the head and at the y-valve and snaked a coat hanger thru the hose on the end of an electric drill. After reassembling,and after a few failed attempts (I had to manually drain it) it all of a sudden burped and drained. I would now like to clear the hoses more thoroughly, so here is my question. Can I pour some CLR into the bowl, let it stand for a few minutes and slowly flush it thru the system, or is CLR too aggressive/corrosive? Is there another possible solution that would desolve the calcium deposits in the hose without harming the inner workings? All tips appreciated.

Al
 
First time I have ever heard of calcium deposits in a marine sanitation line. Are you confident that this is actually the problem?
 
Actually I'm not sure it is Calcium, but as the deposits were very hard, and salt water is mainly salt (NaCl) I just assummed it to be a hard/crusty calcium deposit. In any case is there a solution (or mix of some sort) that one might use to clear/clean their hoses periodically? As for replacing the lines, they are clear now, and replacing them (easier said than done) would not resolve a future build up of this unknown deposit (which I still believe is related to the salt water flushing and drying process). What are your thoughts about using CLR?

Al
 
I just googled salt water and the unknown deposit may be salt, from the drying/evaporation of the flushed water, and, I also googled human urine, and discovered that it is very high in calcium, so, maybe we're dealing with salt crystals and calcium. Might this bring us closer to an answer?

Al
 
It's best to change out the hoses. Yes, you're correct; it is calcium carbonate. It forms a gritty, grayish deposit that sets up like concrete. You can use standard muriatic acid (30-35% HCl) mixed in the ration of 1 pint muriatic acid to 2 gals. clean water. Mix it in a plastic bucket, then pour the mixture into the toilet bowl. Muriatic acid can be bought at hardware stores and home improvement centers. It is used by cement workers to clean ceramic tile, terrazzo, etc. Pour the solution into the toilet bowl and flush it until it goes into the lines. If the toilet flushes directly overboard, station someone at the seacock for the toilet's discharge. As soon as the acid solution has left the toilet bowl, yell for the other person to turn off the seacock. Leave it in the off positon for two hours, then open it and flush the toilet normally for at least a dozen times, to clear the lines.

If you're flushing to a holding tank, you'll have to add an inline shutoff valve near the entry to the holding tank, or find some other means to hold the solution in the lines for an extended period (1-2 hours) so that it has the necessary time inside the line to dissolve the calcium deposits. Then again, flush the toilet for a dozen times, to clear the lines.

To prevent future buildup in the lines, pour a cup (8 oz.) of white vinegar into the toilet bowl and flush it away, once a week - usually on Sunday night, before leaving the boat. White vinegar will also dissolve the mineral buildup, just as it will dissolve egg shell (same mineral composition), but it works much more slowly. In that quantity (8 oz./wk), it won't affect the contents inside the holding tank or kill any of the necessary bacteria inside the tank. But keep it to a maximum of 8 oz./week - no more!

Note: muriatic acid is dangerous to use - be sure to use eye protection and observe (and follow) all warnings on the container.
 
I have a feeling that the internal surface of the hose is damaged or still has a foreign coating this might cause premature buildup of whatever the deposits were that you broke up. Perhaps the CLR will be a temporary fix? It may not be easy replacing the lines but it really should be done. I just finished a total upgrade of my head systems and all hoses were replaced along with the holding tank, shower sump and I installed a complete Vacuflush system so I know it can be difficult to replace hoses but if your hoses are over 5 years old they are probably due anyway especially since it sounds like you feed the head with saltwater which can be loaded with critters. Thats another reason I went Vacuflush I am now all freshwater and there are less smells and deposits to deal with. Good luck and take care. Bill
 
Thanks Vic;
I'll tackle this in the next couple of days. The hoses are only two years old, are top quality white sanitation grade and show no sign of wear or tear, so I'll keep them for the time being.
Bill; As for those critters in the salt water, I'll use either a fresh water flush or the weekly vineger rinse, I haven't noticed any odor in the past but will do what I can to ensure nothing starts a new life in our system. I do appreciate you both taking the time to share your thoughts (and experience).
Al
 
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