Fishing License Required - NYS Rules for Hudson!

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Anyone aware of this!

Beginning October 1st, 2009 we are going to be required to purchase a fishing license (read on)
Recreational Marine License
Frequently asked questions regarding the recreational marine fishing license:
Under what circumstances do I need a recreational marine fishing license?
Persons 16 years of age and older need to acquire a recreational marine fishing license if they are:

fishing in the Marine and Coastal District or
fishing any water (such as the Hudson River, Delaware River, or Mohawk River and their tributaries) where the angler is fishing for "migratory fish from the sea" (such as striped bass, American shad, hickory shad, blueback herring, alewife).
The Marine and Coastal District includes all the waters of the Atlantic Ocean within three nautical miles from the coast ands all other tidal waters within the state, including the Hudson River up to the Governor Malcolm Wilson Tappan Zee Bridge.

When will the license requirements become effective?
Beginning October 1, 2009, all anglers, required to do so, must have a recreational marine fishing license.

[Note: there is pending legislation that may delay the effective date of the implementation of the recreational marine fishing license until January 1, 2010.]

Are there any exemptions whereby I don't need to purchase a recreational marine fishing license?
The following persons are exempt from the requirement to buy the new recreational marine fishing license: Legally blind persons, veterans who qualify for a permanent military-related disability, and members of the Armed Forces who qualify for a free license under New York's Patriot Act.

Also, people fishing in the Marine and Coastal District on an appropriately NYSDEC- licensed charter boat or party boat do not need to have a recreational marine fishing license.

Where can I purchase a recreational marine fishing license?
Recreational marine fishing licenses will be offered for sale as part of DEC's automated licensing system (DECALS) and will be available at all locations where hunting and fishing licenses are offered (most town clerks; many bait and tackle shops; sporting goods stores; DEC regional offices in Albany, Allegheny, Buffalo, Ray Brook, Stony Brook, and Watertown).

You can also purchase your licenses via telephone 1-86-NY-DECALS (1-866-933-2257) or online by visiting the DEC Internet Sporting License Sales page.

What is the cost of a recreational marine license?
Resident annual marine fishing license - $10
Resident 7-day marine fishing license - $8
Resident 1-day marine fishing license - $4
Resident lifetime marine fishing license - $150
Resident lifetime combination fishing and recreational fishing license - $450

Non-resident annual marine fishing license - $15
Non-resident 7-day marine fishing license - $10
Non-resident 1-day marine fishing license - $5

I have a lifetime fishing license, do I still need to purchase a recreational marine license?
Yes. The privileges for fishing in the Marine and Coastal District were not covered previously under any type of license so you must now pay for those privileges.

I have a lifetime sportsman license, do I still need to purchase a recreational marine license?
Yes. The privileges for fishing in the Marine and Coastal District were not covered previously under any type of license so you must now pay for those privileges.

Can I upgrade my lifetime sportsman license to include lifetime marine recreational fishing?
Currently, there are no provisions for an upgrade to add the recreational marine fishing license to any existing lifetime license so you need to purchase the lifetime marine fishing license for $150 or purchase an annual, 7-day, or 1-day license or fish on a party/charter boat that is exempt from the license requirement.

What is the valid license year for the recreational marine fishing license?
The license year for the recreational marine license runs on a calendar-year basis: from January 1 through December 31.

If I purchase a recreational marine fishing license for Fall 2009, do I need to purchase another one to fish in 2010?
Yes. Since the license year runs the same as a calendar year, all recreational marine fishing licenses expire on midnight December 31 of a given year.

I only fish on party boats or charter boats, do I still need a marine fishing license?
Not if you fish on appropriately NYSDEC-licensed party boat or charter boat. In order for anglers to fish on these boats without the need for a recreational marine licenses, the charter boat or party boat must purchase a marine and coastal district party and charter boat license (at a cost of $250) and a recreational marine fishing license (at a cost of $400) that allows for the angler license exemption.

Do all party and charter boats operating in the Marine and Coastal District need to purchase the additional $400 recreational fishing license?
Yes. In order for a party or charter boat to carry recreational fishing passengers in the Marine and Coastal District or land fish taken outside the territorial waters of New York (beyond three miles from shore), the owner or operator of the boat must purchase both a party or charter boat license for $250 and a recreational marine fishing license for $400.

What fishing license do I need to fish in the Hudson River?
Since there is no longer an exemption to the requirement for a license to take fish from the Hudson River south of the Troy Barrier Dam at Troy, anglers will need to have a fishing license when fishing the Hudson River. Depending on the specific location of the Hudson River fishing activities, and the specific species fished for, an angler may need to have a recreational marine fishing license, a freshwater fishing license or both licenses:

If you are fishing downstream from the Tappan Zee Bridge, you are considered fishing in the marine and coastal district and will need to have a recreational marine fishing license.
If you are fishing upstream from the Tappan Zee Bridge and are fishing for non-migratory fish (such as largemouth bass, smallmouth bass, catfish, carp, walleye, and perch), you will need to have a freshwater fishing license.
If you are fishing upstream from the Tappan Zee Bridge and are fishing for "migratory fish from the sea" (such as striped bass, American shad, hickory shad, blueback herring, or alewife), you need to acquire a recreational marine fishing license in addition to a freshwater fishing privilege.
What license do I need to fish the tributaries to the Hudson River?Anglers have always been required to have a freshwater fishing license when fishing the Hudson River tributaries as the Hudson River license exemption only pertained to the Hudson River proper. Now, if an angler is fishing these tributaries for "migratory fish from the sea," they will need a recreational marine fishing license in addition to their freshwater fishing license.

If I fish on a charter boat in the Hudson River do I need a recreational marine fishing license?
Yes, if you are fishing for "migratory fish from the sea" on a boat upstream of the Tappan Zee Bridge, you will need to purchase a recreational marine fishing license (in addition to your freshwater fishing license) since New York's Marine and Coastal District ends at the Tappan Zee Bridge and the party/ charter boat exemption only applies to appropriately- licensed boats operating in New York's Marine and Coastal District.

No, if you are fishing on an appropriately NYSDEC licensed boat downstream of the Tappan Zee Bridge since you will be fishing in New York's marine and coastal district.

Are there any reciprocal license agreements with other states where marine waters form boundaries with other states?
Yes, in certain waters, if a state grants New York recreational marine fishing license holders fishing privileges in that state's portion of the boundary water(s), then New York grants appropriately licensed anglers from that state the privilege to fish in the New York portion of the boundary water(s) without securing a New York recreational marine fishing license:

Connecticut: those parts of Long Island Sound lying between New York and Connecticut
New Jersey: those parts of New York Harbor, Hudson River, Kill Van Kull, Arthur Kill, Raritan Bay, and Atlantic Ocean lying between New Jersey and New York, and
Rhode Island: those parts of Long Island Sound, Block Island Sound and the Atlantic Ocean lying between Rhode Island and New York.
Where do the revenues generated from the sales of recreational marine fishing license go?
All revenues generated from sales of annual, 7-day, and 1-day resident and non-resident recreational marine licenses will be deposited into the Marine Account. The Marine Account is a special sub-account of the Conservation Fund, and, in accordance with State Finance Law, monies in this account shall be available to the DEC specifically for the care, management, protection and enlargement of marine fish and shellfish resources.

All revenues generated from the sales of lifetime recreational marine fishing licenses and lifetime combination fishing and recreational fishing licenses will be deposited into the Fish and Game Trust Account as per State Finance Law. Monies in the fish and game trust account are invested by the State Comptroller and the earned income is transferred into the Conservation Fund to be used for intended purposes.

How do we know that the Marine Account funds will be used for the intended purposes?
The Marine and Coastal District Conservation, Education, and Research Board (Board) has been charged with the tasks to review the allocations and expenditures of the DEC related to the marine Account. This Board is also charged with the responsibility to make annual reports to the DEC Commissioner on expenditures and fiscal needs and to make recommendations on maximum fees to be charged for recreational marine fishing licenses.
 
I note Gov. Paterson will not need a license.

Safe and Happy Boating!
ColonyCove
 
This is bull shi-t. So since I fish north of the TZ I need both licence's since I fish for strippers as well as perch. And I dont keep anything I catch in the river. The fish are unhealthy according to all advisories issued but I have to pay to fish for unhealthy fish. Nothing like polititions for you...
 
Yes Paterson played the race card, and now he's playing the blind man card also. Wait I get it, you can't smell the difference between fish?
 
well, i just won't fish for those migratory species. not my fault if one happens upon my hook.
 
I hadn't seen anything about this lately but had heard a few months back it would be implemented for next year. The way I understand it is a federal law was passed that requires a registry of all saltwater fishermen with the idea that it will help when setting quotas, improving the data, etc. So I think all the states are being pushed to implement saltwater licenses for next year, it's not just NY.

John
 
I also have heard talk about New Jersey comming out with a salt water licence. I have not seen anything but have had several people mention it to me...
 
The way I read that, if you fish above the TZ you still do not need a license. . . where's the local "Boating Barrister" to tranlate from legal-eese to common-speak?

Rum - can you please post a link for those FAQ's? thanks.
 
More money out of our pockets to the Government.

What is going to suck is if you can only get the license at a City Hall or similar. When we were in Texas a few years back we wanted to go out on a party boat fishing for the day. It was Sunday and the captain said we needed licenses even on a party boat. Town Hall was the only place to get them and they are closed on weekends.
 
Gene - Unfortunately I don't have the links - the article was sent to me - no links included. I think this is outrageous. Even if I were to leave from Englewood NJ on Hudson - I would need a NYS Fishing license!
 
New York - need to change the state motto to, "IF you like to do it, WE can tax it."
 
Some have said it above - in fairness to NY, this is a mandate from the Federal Government to account for the recreational anglers in our state. It sucks, but then again so does just about everything else the !#$^&! government comes up with these days. It seems like the general populace, and the small business community, is doing their best to get ourselves out of the economic turmoil and the government is doing its best to keep us IN it!!!

By the way, if I'm standing on the Rondout Creek jetty, which license do I need? Turn one way and its the regular license, turn the other and its the new one. Just brilliant...

My recommendation - spend the $450 and get the lifetime combined license. Then later on when they raise the fees it will not affect you. Plus you'll always have the right license, at least until they legislate a new one that you dont have yet!!!
 
Good luck... in CT they passed a $10 license the funds to be used in a conservation fund.... 3 months later they passed the budget, upped the license to $30 and moved the proceeds to the General Fund!!! Politics at work!
 
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