Garmin BlueChart Mobile App

Interesting, but I'm confused about the status of the WiFi interface. It's listed as a required component in the details of the App, but no-where on their site do they have info about it.
 
From what I have read on several different sites all Garmin products like most other electronic devices will soon be integrating wifi to communicate instead of hard wire, some Garmin products already do this. This is the future of most electronics. I have an external 500GB hard drive that has wifi built in so I don't need a USB or firewire to transfer data including music and videos to my computer and Ipad. The Ipad will want to communicate to the Garmin network and visa-versa to share data including Active Captain which relys on user generated data. A router is necessary to extend the network beyond the electronics on the boat. This is only the initial release of these apps so I imagine with future updates your Ipad will eventually be able to wirelessly view and control all of your boats electronic data through your boats Garmin network and share it through the internet. The Active Captain app called Companion mentioned that it will be able to warn a boat of upcoming potential hazards on the boats course so I imagine that having an interactive network of shared boat warnings and local information would be helpful to avoid things such as shoals and other potential hazards in real time. I would assume that boat operators will still need to rely on their VHF as they do now but having current displayed locally reported data seems to me to be a great addition.
 
Two questions for anyone who might know as I haven't been able to find the answers on their website:

Does anyone know if you purchase a chart, can that same chart be used on your iphone and ipad or you would have to buy a chart for each?

Would the ipad recognize the iphone gps if connected to the phone's hotspot?
 
Yes, the purchase of the charts transfers to your other devices.

Still no mention of the WiFi Adapter release though.

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Originally posted by SLW

Yes, the purchase of the charts transfers to your other devices.




I confirm, just got the charts to the iPhone as well as the iPad just need the same Apple ID
 
I probably should've let you test that first! That was a $29 gamble I really didn't have to make.

So far, I'm impressed. Downloading the AC database into eSeaCharts fails about 75% of the time for me, but it pulled into Bluechart Mobile perfectly.
 
Well with a little review and only from my home without testing on the boat I find the interface easy to use. It's very much like the Garmin PC based system I have been using for years. I have not been able to find a G.E. or SAT. overlay like the Navionics App has, a feature I really like. I hope they add this or that I'm just not finding it.
 
My thoughts exactly: typical Garmin user-friendliness, but I too immediately looked for G.E. or equivilent imagery. That's a serious omission in my opinion.

I hope they take the "feedback" feature seriously. I will submit a feature request, but I've submitted many feature requests for their other products over the years, and have yet to see any of them (even the most simple) materialize.

I've been eagerly awaiting the NMEA-2000 WiFi interface, but now I'm having second thoughts anyway. What I really want to do is pull my routes and waypoints into the App. I manage all of that data in Homeport, so I would MUCH rather see an option to integrate the app into Homeport and avoid the cost and complexity of NM2K WiFi.
 
I tried to download the app to my Ipad. Got a message that I need to update to iOS 6.0, I cant get 6.0 since I have a first generation Ipad. Would have downloaded it if I could.
 
"I've been eagerly awaiting the NMEA-2000 WiFi interface, but now I'm having second thoughts anyway. What I really want to do is pull my routes and waypoints into the App. I manage all of that data in Homeport, so I would MUCH rather see an option to integrate the app into Homeport and avoid the cost and complexity of NM2K WiFi."

I agree. Not convinced that I want to spend another $200(according to Garmin site) just to move data between the two. Wish I could export info from Ipad to the "cloud" to then be able to xfer to homeport and/or sd card to Garmin 536s. Maybe Garmin could create their own server or I could use Icloud.

I know part of the wireless experience according to Garmin is to see live update on the Ipad as you move. I do that now with a bluetooth gps puck. I do not need my Garmin to get that.
 
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Originally posted by bhead56

I know part of the wireless experience according to Garmin is to see live update on the Ipad as you move. I do that now with a bluetooth gps puck. I do not need my Garmin to get that.






Right! At any given time, I have 2 iPhones and 2 iPads with GPS capability, a plotter and the 32" TV that displays the plotter screen. I can't think of a scenerio where WiFi would be more useful than iCloud compatibility.

I have to laugh at myself for eagerly awaiting the WiFi adapter. I think as a Garmin fan, I was just jealous that Raymarine beat them to the market with that feature.
 
One of the nice features of the wifi interface not to be overlooked is the ability to plot waypoints/routes on the fly while underway. It may not happen often or be worth the $ to some, but in the event of an unplanned course adjustment, it's a nicety to have someone lay down the route without commandeering the plotter and blocking the helm or giving the captain any reason to be distracted.
 
From the article (for us Android users):

Android users feeling left out? You shouldn't. The free Android app NutiChart has been out for about a year and a half with free charts, GPS tracking and Active Captain over the Internet. Off line charts are available by state for a fee and can display AC data offline. Way points but no routes. Weather overlay selectable for wind, pressure, temp, rain, wave height and meteograms for 7 days. Free over the net. Another free app, "Marine Weather" shows all weather stations and buoys and allows selection for their data feeds and radar. The new Weather Bug Elite app has location based lightning warning that will count down the timing of the storm to your location with updates. It also has location based scrollable current weather cameras which is a nice feature.

I'll probably put this app on the admiral's iPad for the heck of it. But I doubt I'll use it much. As for a backup chartplotter/GPS, that's what I have a backup Garmin chartplotter for! :-)
 
Just got this email this morning from Active Captain, also including the Panbo link that Abalmuth posted.

It has now been a week since Garmin's charting app for iPhone and iPad
was released - BlueChart Mobile (BCM). By now, many of you have
downloaded, purchased, and can see why it is such an advancement.

There have already been a couple of full reviews written about the app.
This first one from i-Marine apps goes over all the features of the
product with a variety of screen shots:
http://tinyurl.com/i-MarineApps-BCM

Ben Ellison from Panbo wrote another review which showed another set
of screen shots - the weather ones are especially good:
http://tinyurl.com/panbo-BCM

These first reviews give great general information about the product.
What we wanted to do was go a step further and answer some of the most
common questions we've received and seen. In keeping with the zen of
ActiveCaptain, we're not going to pull any punches - we're going to say
what we really think even though it might not please everyone.

(Q) Why is this any more significant a product than any of the other
chart apps?

(A) This product took guts to release. This is the first product from
a major manufacturer that gives you a real chartplotter using an
inexpensive tablet or phone. Yes, we know about Raymarine's apps but
they are streaming apps that just repeat the screen of other Raymarine
hardware. Once you take those apps off the boat, they go black. But BCM
is different. The charts are the real Garmin BlueChart data stored on
the iOS device and will work on the boat, in the dinghy, or in a
restaurant.

Garmin had to consider that releasing a complete charting app could
very well cause people to purchase fewer real chartplotters. But a
market leader doesn't act that way. They provide the best products in
each class of use. In the end, this usually results in actually
increasing the number of hardware devices sold. And we think this
will be Garmin's result. It's gutsy, it's what a market leader does,
and we love it.

(Q) What specifically is better about this app?

(A) There are a few things:

- It's the charts. Garmin didn't release a dumbed-down version of their
charts for iOS. The BlueChart data is the exact same data found on their
highest end $7,000 chartplotter (for a tiny percentage of the BlueChart
data cost). The quality of the data presentation is easy to see. It's
clear that there are more than just software developers writing the code.
There are also graphic artists at work here making the chart display
cleaner, easier to read, and in the end, better.

Most everyone with an iOS device on a boat has the Navionics apps. They've
been the standard for a few years now. So we put together a page showing
the exact same locations on BCM and Navionics. Look at them and decide
which one has more quality - we think it's obvious:
https://activecaptain.com/BCM-Navionics.php

Note that there is a black band at the top and bottom of the Navionics
screen shots. That's because they currently don't really support the
iPhone 5.

The first comparison is from Saint Simons Sound, Georgia. The second is
from Great Guana Cay in the Bahamas. The third is near Key Largo and
includes BCM shots with ActiveCaptain turned off and on.

- These BCM charts aren't scaled back. They aren't "gold" instead of
"platinum". The BCM charts are better than what you expect. The US region
includes the Bahamas and the charts are Explorer Charts. That's why the
second set of comparisons looks so different. The Navionics charts aren't
just graphically inferior. They're geographically inferior. Examples
abound.

- There is full support for all regions that Garmin has worldwide. It's
simple to add all of North America (Canada, Mexico, full Caribbean, and
more), Europe, Australia, and on and on.

- The integration of weather is elegant. There is a variety of free
weather overlay capabilities - wind, wave, period, etc. It's done quite
well. There's also a Premium one-time $4.99 weather option that provides
live, animated weather radar overlay with support for US, Canada, and
Europe. And the reason it's all so good? Garmin owns the weather data
company:
http://www.digitalcyclone.com/

- Route creation - BCM sets a new standard for a wonderful user interface
for creating routes on a touch device. It's brilliant, it's easy, and
it's a part of the standard product.

(Q) Is there an Android version coming?

(A) Garmin's official answer to that is something along the lines of,
"There are no current plans to produce an Android product." You can bet
that they're listening to the feedback and watching sales of BCM for iOS.
But don't count on an Android product in any near or medium term. I don't
believe it'll happen without some major change in the buying habits of
Android users.

(Q) How come it's not a real navigation product?

(A) We couldn't imagine driving our boat where the primary navigation
system was an iPad or iPhone. As a backup, it's a stellar solution. It's
not going to drive our autopilot or integrate with our radar. It's a
planning tool and a backup. When following a route, your job is to keep
the boat on the route line. There is no bearing-to-waypoint, cross-track
error, or other navigation displays. It's a backup in those uses.

It's possible that Garmin will add those minor parameter calculation values.
Quite honestly, it just doesn't matter and it's been a silly complaint.

(Q) How come it requires iOS 6 / Why won't it run on my iPad 1?

(A) We're partially to blame for that. We tested BCM on the original iPad
and found it to be unacceptable because of crashing. Restricting BCM to iOS 6
removes the ability for an iPad 1 owner to download the app from the iTunes
app store. OK, so how come it crashes?

The original iPad 1 had 500 MB of RAM for running software to use. That RAM
is different from the 16/32/64 GB storage memory of the device. It's used by
the operating system and apps. 500 MB is an incredible amount but it didn't
take long before developers started using all of it. Unfortunately, as that
RAM gets used up, there's no reliable warning. The running app just crashes
back to the app launcher.

Later iPads added significantly more RAM and the crashing goes away. You can
bet that in another 3 years, there will be new apps that won't run on the
latest iPad because they'll require even more RAM.

If you have an iPad 1 like us, it's time to upgrade it to a new model. Get
a cellular one with 32 GB of storage or more. You want the cellular model
even if you never enable the plan because only that model has a built-in
GPS. When you have your shiny new iPad, use the old iPad for video or in
the galley. It's fantastic for recipes, planning, groceries, and other
planning. That's where ours is now.

For what it's worth, our own ActiveCaptain Companion for iOS crashes on
an iPad 1 too. Any advanced navigation app with a lot of functionality is
going to have a hard time running on that original device.

(Q) If I also have an iPhone, do I need to purchase BCM twice?

(A) Absolutely not. Download the app for free and click on Restore Purchases
in the BlueChart Maps page. That'll make everything available on your iPhone too.

But that's not all. If your spouse has an iPhone or iPad, you can load the
single purchased copy on their devices too. Just have them log into your iTunes
account before launching BCM. Once they do that, Restore Purchases will allow
the charts to run for multiple people. That's how we use it ourselves.

(Q) When will feature XYZ be added?

(A) Part of BCM is a feedback section. When you tap on it, you can provide
feedback directly to Garmin engineers. Tell them what you want. They are
listening and recording your requests.

So that's a whole bunch of additional information about why this BCM app
is so fantastic. And notice that we never mentioned that it has ActiveCaptain
support. Needless to say, we like that too.
 
Been using it for a few days now, both for planning and on water nav and find it to be a pretty impressive package.

Blue charts are, well blue charts! Doesn't get much better than that... Totally seamless unlike apps that use NOAA charts

Major flaw I see is the lack of an anchor alarm, inexcusable on an app designed to run on portable device you can take in your SR at night. And I hate DragQueen since it doesn't have a graphic view of your swing pattern

So far, it s become my favorite over iNavX, Charts and tides and eSeaChart. And the Jeppesen app which I actually deleted (clunky)

Having the Bahamas blue chart is alone a huge plus
 
Pascal, is Explorer Charts data included?
 
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