I presently have a 2001 3780 with twin 420 gas volvo and the boat fits us well. I came across a 2006 3880 leftover with options that I would prefer 440 Yan, bow thruster, better electronics,and new canvas. My 3780 canvas is at its end and needs to be replaced.I was woundering what anybodys thought are on having a new boat servey. Would this be a waste of money or over kill. Would also appreciate any other insight on this matter.
Getting close on a new leftover 2006 3880
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You are going to spend $300 - $400K on a boat - a survey will cost you less than a thousand, money well spent.
You absolutely should have it surveyed, the time to find the problems and get them fixed is before you pay for the boat.
You absolutely should have it surveyed, the time to find the problems and get them fixed is before you pay for the boat.
as long as the boat is sold as new, there is a warranty. go thru the systems make sure it all works and don't sweat it. if it's not right does it make any difference if the boat is fresh off the line or a year old. the warranty is the same. as long as you are buying it from a dealer and not a 3rd/private party.
Thanks for all the advice. My concern is that I am buying from a dealer that is four hundred miles from my home port. My nearest dealer is about eighty miles and not the best to work with. All that said I am going Friday to see the boat for the first time any other advice. Thanks
I'm Sorry, but this thread frosts my arse something awful. I am required to get a termite inspection on a new to me home when I purchase it. Insurance company amd VA says so. I can understand that as no house I have purchased was brand spankin' new and termites have been around Virginia for a while. I have NEVER had to have a survey on a car when I purchased it (I do not buy new). I have never had my Rolex surveyed. I have never had my dishwasher surveyed, nor my refrigerator, nor my stove, nor my washer / dryer combo.
YET, I am expected to get a survey on the second larges purchase I shall make in my life...AND what is being surveyed IS COMING FROM THE FACTORY!?!?!?!?
I don't know about you, but the 57% slump in sales just took on a "more than fuel prices" flavor to me.
YET, I am expected to get a survey on the second larges purchase I shall make in my life...AND what is being surveyed IS COMING FROM THE FACTORY!?!?!?!?
I don't know about you, but the 57% slump in sales just took on a "more than fuel prices" flavor to me.
Do you really think that replacing your boat with the same boat because your canvas is shot is a wise move? I really understand the desire to have diesels, we love ours, but keep in mind a 3780 is a 3880 is now a 4080. The SAME boat! Might be cheaper to repower in this case.
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My vote if for no survey on a new boat, especially in your case. You are already very familiar with the type boat considered and should be able to evaluate all systems, electrical, water, waste, fiberglass fit and finish, etc. for proper operation and appearance with exception of the diesel units (they are new to you). Being so far away from the dealer may be cause for some concern for warranty service but most dealers will work with you to provide needed warranty parts to be serviced/replaced by a qualified tech in you home port area.
I would make every effort to keep and use the boat in the dealer’s locale for a week or two, at least, to get your 20+ hours on it so he can provide the 20-hour service (or whatever the requirement is) for you. That would give you a chance to get a handle on anything else that should be taken care of before transporting to your homeport.
I would make every effort to keep and use the boat in the dealer’s locale for a week or two, at least, to get your 20+ hours on it so he can provide the 20-hour service (or whatever the requirement is) for you. That would give you a chance to get a handle on anything else that should be taken care of before transporting to your homeport.
I don't think I've seen a new boat yet without a punch down list of defects and things that were not "quite right"
You can wait for the dealer to get around to fixing things while you own the boat possibly losing some of your boating time or you can say sorry but until XYZ is fixed you're not getting my money. In which case do you think the dealer will work faster? Do you really want to OWN a boat where the hull has a manufacturer defect due to a sloppy layup? It's rare but happens and a survey can find these things BEFORE your on the hook for it.
You can wait for the dealer to get around to fixing things while you own the boat possibly losing some of your boating time or you can say sorry but until XYZ is fixed you're not getting my money. In which case do you think the dealer will work faster? Do you really want to OWN a boat where the hull has a manufacturer defect due to a sloppy layup? It's rare but happens and a survey can find these things BEFORE your on the hook for it.
I agree with Rommer.
Our boat was a brand new one year old boat and although Regal eventually fixed everything it took over a year and several trips to the dealer.(a good dealer I might add)
Most issues such as two major leaks I believe a good surveyor would have found.
I definatly would get it surveyed and also get it re-checked that all items were resolved.
Our boat was a brand new one year old boat and although Regal eventually fixed everything it took over a year and several trips to the dealer.(a good dealer I might add)
Most issues such as two major leaks I believe a good surveyor would have found.
I definatly would get it surveyed and also get it re-checked that all items were resolved.
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I would go for the survey, like other said, hand them the punchlist BEFORE you hand them the money.
Considering the dealer is 400 miles away, and the dealer closer to you, if you are lucky, will give you the time of day........
This boat is a leftover you say? Not a demo??? How do you know what the boat did for the past year or so, was it abused, not maintained, etc.......
The survey is cheap, your time going back and forth with the dealer to fix things after you've spent your money isnt!
Jonathan
Considering the dealer is 400 miles away, and the dealer closer to you, if you are lucky, will give you the time of day........
This boat is a leftover you say? Not a demo??? How do you know what the boat did for the past year or so, was it abused, not maintained, etc.......
The survey is cheap, your time going back and forth with the dealer to fix things after you've spent your money isnt!
Jonathan
There is no question that you need a survey on a new boat. You also need a hard run underway as part of the survey. Find every little thing that needs to be fixed before you take over the boat. Oil leaks, missing screws, loose screws, safety inspections. check every switch & system fully. You'll be amazed. No way will the boat be 100% ready.
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Adding to what Art said, a proper sea trial with the surveryor is also in order.
Jonathan
Jonathan
Adding, don't just flush the heads - try the maserator too. Don't just try the faucet - let it run a while. Notice if the sink drain is slow (maybe a kinked line) is the elbow dry under the sink. You need a real hard detective type inspection of every inch like you know there is a problem you just can't find it. Take your time it will be worth your time. Engine zincs? Wow, it would take me the entire day with a surveyor maybe even the next day too?
If I had a reliable dealer near by, new boat perhaps I would forgo the survey, but probably not. Given the distance from the selling dealership, I would follow severals posters advice. I would get the survey and keep the boat in the dealers area for a few days and have the 20 hour inspection performed there. It may save you a great deal of head ache.
Thanks for all of the advice. I am looking at two boats that seem to be very similar. I found a difference in the two invoices. One had twin Yanmar 6LY2-STP Diesels The other has twin Yanmar 6LY3A-STP FRESH WATER COOLED Diesels. The difference being the 2 versus the 3 and saying fresh water cooled. Does this make a difference and if one says fresh water isn't the other also Roomer we were looking for bow thruster better electronics just seems more pratical to start over do aprciate your insight. Thanks to eveybody for the help.
Hi Bill,
If I understand the difference in FRESH WATER COOLED Diesels.. I'd say if you're boating in fresh water that FRESH WATER COOLED Diesels - would be okay.. if in salt water, I'd pick the closed cooling option.
I may be totally off here on what the difference is in the 2 mentioned boats.. ??
If I understand the difference in FRESH WATER COOLED Diesels.. I'd say if you're boating in fresh water that FRESH WATER COOLED Diesels - would be okay.. if in salt water, I'd pick the closed cooling option.
I may be totally off here on what the difference is in the 2 mentioned boats.. ??
Both the 6LY2-STP and the 6LY3A-STP are fresh water cooled engines. (They both have closed cooling systems)
The 6LY2 maxs HP out at 440 while the 6LY3 maxes out at 480 and is the newer engine type with better tier 2 emissions ratings and electronic controls. Not sure which I would perfer the mechanical reliability of the LY2 or the better emissions of the LY3. Tough call.
The 6LY2 maxs HP out at 440 while the 6LY3 maxes out at 480 and is the newer engine type with better tier 2 emissions ratings and electronic controls. Not sure which I would perfer the mechanical reliability of the LY2 or the better emissions of the LY3. Tough call.