Good solar panel to top off batteries

WALSHIE

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For my center console, I am fighting with the batteries. Last year, I couldn't get it right, but discovered the solar panel I am using is 23 volts!! WTF! I put a tester on it assuming it was dead but instead it's 23 volts, and the label in back now says 23 volts. I guess I bought the wrong one.

So I am in the market again, any recommendations? I want this to keep the battery topped off. Actually, I have two batteries, isolated so I will probably buy two panels.

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You shouldn’t need much just to keep the battery charged. I have a rigid panel that’s about 20x15”, I forgot the wattage, to keep a G31 house battery charged our mooring kept 26’ sailboat also has a regulator. Works fine... battery is always kept charged enough for stereo, lights etc when we sail. Boat had an electric motor (power by a 48V bank) so the panel is the only charging source for the house battery
 
Thanks guys, I will order that model.

Just to be clear (because I *thought* I knew what I was doing)....with 12v at 30 watt output, I don't need a regulator to stop the charging do I?

My understanding is this is a trickle charge and will not / cannot overcharge and bake the battery.
 
Note that solar panels ratings are perhaps not what you think they are. At least, they might not mean what you are expecting...

A solar panel usually will quote voltage at no load. ie: 23 volts. At zero current the panel voltage will rise to 23 volts. But it might ( further info required to actually state accurately ) actually be the correct panel, giving max power at 12 V at some amperage, such as 2.5 A.

Still, even at 30 watts a small controller would be a good idea.

In any event, a deeper dive into the way a solar system works would be a good idea.

( If the max current rating is less than 1% of battery capacity, then a controller is not "mandatory". But a controller of some sort is always a good plan. Even those one dollar solar yard lights have a rudimentary control circuit. )
 
Thanks Bill, I am starting to get an understanding. Yes, no load is 23volts, but I guess when the panel is charging a battery it will read closer to 12V.

I found the order of the charger I have and it is 5 watts which is .49amp! So,,,,perhaps it is good for a real trickle charge but to top off the battery, that's not much. I will order at least 30 watt (need to be aware of size) and a $10 regulator to keep everything working well.
 
Solar panels have a "power curve, voltage vs current at a specific "insolation".

In the most general sense, and very approximate, the "max power point" ( max total power ) will occur at about one-half of the Max open circuit voltage. ( at zero current ). That figure is close enough to get a starting point, but each panel is different. ( If it were easy, every one would be doing it! :D )

There are various kinds of controllers, but in general terms, they attempt to convert the widely ranging voltage ( and current availability at a particular sun level ) to a voltage that is appropriate for the current charge state of your battery, while attempting to achieve the maximum power output of the panel. It is surprising ( to me, at least ) how complex this can get, in the details. Thankfully, in practice, it is much simpler; someone has already done the work, and there are many not particularly expensive controllers available.

With a very small solar panel, vs a relatively large battery, the controller is not necessary, but once the battery is charged, the panel will still produce power. As the battery begins rejecting further charge, the current drops, and panel voltage rises. at full sun, you will approach Vmax and even at very low outputs there will be current flow. Which will be dissipated as heat, at the battery. A little heat is unlikely to cause issues, but since a controller will stop this, I consider a controller to almost always be a plus.

Have fun with it!
 
Thanks for the information Bill. I'm guessing the solar panel I have now is "working" and appropriate even though it is 23v at no load. However at .49 amps, it's not doing squat. I ordered the 30 watt one Mike mentioned and this is 2.5amp which is what my automotive trickle charge is. I expect this to work as designed but will keep an eye on it. I also ordered a volt meter to mount on the console.
 
The controller I have (forget the brand) has a display showing vintage and Amps going to the battery. Very useful to monitor the battery voltage but also find best orientation and location for the panel(s). It takes very little shade for Amos to drop drastically
 
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