Haul out and bottom paint...priced it lately?

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I called Ladds and we estimated around $1500 or so to pull out a 44ft, clean the bottom and put a coat on. Patty will use the good paint, but I was hoping it would be a little cheaper in the "off season".

Anyone else checked on it lately? Even in the Bay Area? Of course, the way fuel costs now, it doesn't pay to go too far.
 
Dave,

I haven't checked it lately, but some of the yards will give you a free haul out when you do bottom paint during January and February. Ladd's has always had a first class operation but I think you pay for it a bit. You might try giving Waltons a call. They are located in Bruno's Marina. I have heard that they have reasonable prices and I haven't heard of one complaint about their work. That is quite an accomplishment in the Delta.

Hope you have a happy and prosperous new year!
 
I think Bethel Harbor and perhaps Marine Emporium at Bethel Island both give "deals" in January & February. You might give them a call.....

Now that I keep my boat on a lift, I don't need to bottom paint, so I'm not up to speed on costs and specials, etc.
 
Thanks for the "heads up", I will call them. I was a bit surprised because my last haul out
for TWO coats of paint was cheaper than that.

Usually the boatyards will consider offering some special deals to get business in, but if they are so busy they don't need to, I am happy for them.

I am not familiar with either boat yard, but will look up their number & give them a call.
Thanks a lot....Dave
 
I looked up my last bottom paint job and all it said was "anti-foul" paint. No names. I was
charged $161.50 a gallon. They used 2.5 gallons for a 44 ft hull.

Any new paints out that seem to do real well in the delta?

Another guy suggested that...when it is pulled out, washed off....if the paint has no tears,
scrapes, etc. -- do NOT paint it again. Put it back in.

Last time it was cleaned down to the gelcoat with no blisters, etc. It had been sitting in salt water most of the time...for about 4 years. Now it sits in fresh water, under cover.

So what do YOU use for bottom paint in the Delta?
 
Well, the good news is that after sitting in fresh water for a month or so, all of the salt water "stuff" should have died and hopefully fallen off........
 
There are a number of anti-fouling paints that work well on Delta cruisers.

Our boat is in San Joaquin River fresh water most of the time where it is kept in a slip. I've had good luck in the past with just Interlux Bottomkote. Pettit Trinidad is the favorite of several area boaters I know.

The boat was bottom painted in October with a professional anti-fouling made by Sherwin-Williams for the shallow draft trade: it was picked with my wooden boat and usage in mind. It's a semi-hard antifouling paint. As a bonus, the untinted color looks good with the canvas, too.

Controlling algae and other plant growth is the primary job for bottom paint on displacement speed boats in fresh water. Not as many marine critters as salt water. Most copper-based anti-foulings can be wiped clean by a diver if the boat is infrequently used and when the paint is over a year old and less effective. Not necessary, though if you use the boat more often.

There are moves afoot to ban the use of copper anti-fouling on California boats. The need for the ban has not been established and I don't think any prohibitions have been passed yet. Non-metal antifouling paints may require frequent cleaning. Back in the old days, lead was the most commonly used metal for anti-fouling paint.

Boatyard custom is to charge retail for materials (including bottom paint). That's the way it is and I wouldn't try to haggle over that. If you want to bargain a bit, it's best to do that on the bottom line estimate. I like just a verbal estimate and agreement. I've done most of the work on the boat myself, so if I don't trust the guys I hire to work on it, we wouldn't be doing business in the first place.
 
Thanks for the info. I am going to call Ladds to see just what they used. We might consider having a diver look at it.
 
Anytime. Three to four years is good lifetime for bottom paint around here. Depends how picky you need to be about coverage and wear. From what I've seem around the docks, premium priced antifouling paints don't seem to last much longer or be that much more effective than the good mid-priced paints. Delta water is pretty gentle on the boats, really. The paints I've tried use two coats.
 
Do you know of any GOOD divers? And how well can they see in the Mokelumne? And the river
is really moving right there.

I have never had a diver clean the bottom. Any suggestions? With the medical bills coming up it would be nice to save the money, but I don't want to mess the gelcoat up. I think I have photos of them painting it last time. Ladd's Boatyard told me they were about the last boatyard around that would let people work on their own boats in the yard.
 
Steve Zarit of Sea Wolf Marine Services. He comes to the Delta pretty often from Berkeley. Steve cleaned the bottom and replaced zincs for me in 2004 and 2005. $2.50 per foot, then. He will do below water-line hull cleaning and report to you on overall condition and observations. 800 732-9653.

I think that Steve will give you 50% off from the cleaning if you get another boater at your marina signed on for a cleaning on the same trip. Ask him about it.
 
Thanks, I will call him Monday. I took my little Schwinn S1000 electric scooter down to the boat a couple of days ago, it works GREAT. Pull the battery out and it weighs about.....
uh...40 pounds. That isn't too heavy...Chris can do that easy. :)

BUT, if we went to Angel Island for a week, I was thinking we might try docking for a day and ride the scooters on the island. I can't remember if their docks are big enough and I
darn sure don't plan on lifting that scooter into the dinghy. I think their website tells how big their slips are.

And a week in saltwater would kill some of the little critters. Maybe I should spend a week in saltwater, then have the diver come up.
 
I would use Bethel Harbor. They give a very fair flat per foot rate.
Interlux or Pettit would both be good paint.
 
I've hauled out at Bethel Harbor and Ament's and had quality work done by both.
 
Thanks, they are finishing the paint job on my engines tomorrow, then I will give them a call.
 
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