Hold n' Treat System

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Vic,

for the Bay does the Hold n' Treat System include everything I need? The new boat came only with a 30 gallon tank and that will not suffice. I read that the Bay water is considered brackish water and that I would need an aditional salt tank. Also does it include the controls and the actual MSD or do those have to be purchased separately?

Thanks,

Dominic
 
Hi Dominic,

Good hearing from you. The Hold 'N Treat system is available in two different configurations. The complete system DOES include the MSD and everything you need, except for the salt feed tank. You'd need the salt feed tank with pump, part # 32-3003. It comes complete with a 15 gallon holding tank. You could then get rid of your existing holding tank.

The other way you can do it, is to keep your existing 30 gallon holding tank and use that, then purchase the Hold 'N Treat controller, the MSD, and salt feed tank as individual components, then combine it all together.

What's the best way to go? I'm not sure. It depends mainly on where you're going to be using the boat. Just in the Bay, or out in the ocean, too?

Costwise, neither method has much of an advantage over the other. The main concern that I see at this point is the available space to mount the various components. Ideally, I'd like to see you forego the Electro-scan and use the Purasan with it, instead. With the Purasan, you wouldn't need a salt feed system, and would likely only have to replace the chlorine cartridge once a season, as the Purasan doesn't require salt or salt water. And, it can operate with either fresh or salt water.

Here's the "poop" on the Purasan:

http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/purasan/L405v0804.pdf

Oh, by the way, you didn't mention how many and what make and model heads you have on the new boat? I'm guessing 2 (or maybe 3) VacuFlushes, but I don't know for certain.

It will require some planning, and give and take, back and forth, to come up with the best possible system for the boat. Oh, by the way, we have a new servicing dealer in Annapolis: Annapolis Harbor Boat Yard (formerly Steve's Yacht Repair). They're in Eastport, First street and the harbor, on the left. (410) 268-0092. Service Mgr.'s name is Kevin McPadden. But before all that, let's put our heads together and figure out which will be the best system to put on the boat.

Regards to Jacky and the kids.
 
Vic,

thanks for your quick response. I will get the make and model of the heads his weekend. I know they are two, electric, non-macerating. I would prefer the purasan and keeping the 30 gallon tank. There should be enough space to install the system. I will let you know after the weekend. Jacky and the kids are doing great and love the new boat.

Thanks,

Dominic
 
Dominic,

Kristen and I went with the Electro Scan. It's a Hold 'N Treat configuration that uses our existing 20 gallon holding tank. Vic can correct me, but while the Purasan might give me less of a problem with salt, I think it uses more power (right, Vic?). When we're in the Chesapeake, I use one small bucket of salt in the salt feed per weekend. It's not a huge deal. We do go up the Sassafras some, and I haven't noticed too much extra salt usage in the more "fresh" water up there.

So Vic, what's the advantage of Electro Scan over Purasan?
 
No Kurt, the Purasan uses less power - a lot less. They both run for 2 minutes per cycle, but the Purasan uses 10 amps for that period, whereas the Electro-scan draws a nominal 37 amps for that period. When you bought yours, we didn't offer a Hold 'N treat system that used the Purasan; the Electro-scan was the only treatment system that would work with it. But we've since adapted it to allow the Purasan to be used, too. So you can now get the Hold 'N Treat to work with either one. (so don't think you were misled at the time - back then it was the only way you could get it)

As far as which is better than the other, which car is better, a Lexus or a Mercedes? It's mainly a matter of personal preference, but in the long haul, the Purasan seems to be more trouble-free. No salt to add and no electrodes to replace when they go bad. So that's the direction I'd like to steer Dominic in, if possible.
 
Vic,

No worries. If we have problems with our Electro Scan in the future, we'll change it out for a Purasan.

BTW Vic, the answer to your car comparison is: BMW :-)

Hope to see both of you soon.
 
Kurt, I think Dominic prefers a Porsche.

In your particular application, you could accomodate a Purasan with no major problems at all, because you have plenty of space above it to hang the dispenser cartridge.

Dominic, I'll have to admit I've never seen or heard of that make and model of toilet; it sort of resembles the Techma, made in Italy. But I see no reason why it wouldn't be compatible with a Hold 'N Treat system. The Hold 'N Treat system is merely there in place of a holding tank, the toilet is operated independently, and simply flushes into the Hold 'N Treat's tank - it doesn't know where it's flushing.
 
Thanks Vic,

so should I just give Kevin in Annapolis a call and get the Purasan Hold'n'Treat from them?

thanks,

Dominic
 
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