Liberty Landing: The good and bad of my last visit

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I have been staying at Liberty Landing Marina for a few nights each season over the past several years. I have enjoyed it for its helpful and accommodating staff, protected slips and unrivaled view of Manhattan along with everything else that has made it, in my opinion, a great place to stay. The new marine center is an enormously positive addition. The marina's spectacular new restrooms are unrivaled and the ship's store is extremely well-stocked with both general marine supplies and basic conveniences from coffee to toothpaste. I was told by staff there that the building is contracted to be completed by July 4th and will include a casual grill restaurant and something more formal. It is the kind of facility that makes LL truly world-class.

Having said all that, I wanted to make people aware of something I experienced during my recent stay there. It was my first time as a transient when a ‘booze cruise' was running from Liberty Landing's fuel dock. If you have stayed there before, you know that the fuel dock shares the same pier as the transient docks and therefore the same gated entrance. In past years, I have never known this gate to be locked, day or night. This year I was given key cards for the new marine center restrooms which also worked for the gate to the docks, although it was never closed and locked.

While I was aware of the line of people streaming down the dock to board the cruise before it departed, that part of the evening was uneventful. But it was a much different scene upon the boat's return. Sometime around midnight as passengers disembarked, many of them were drunk and disorderly, some hanging around, smoking on the fuel dock and others stumbling around on the main docks. I observed one individual board a deck boat tied closest to the main pier, cigarette in hand, seemingly attempting to figure out how to start it. Another transient asked if it was his boat to which the cruise guest responded, “no, so what are you going to do about it?" The individual then untied the boat's stern line before stumbling away. The boat (which turned out to be LL's work boat) swung around with the exposed prop coming within inches of the neighboring Hinckley Picnic Boat's blue hull, if it didn't in fact touch.

The same transient who attempted to intervene approached the cruise boat's disinterested captain who rudely responded to the suggestion that he needed to secure the situation by saying, “we have insurance." A polite but ineffective Liberty Landing security guard eventually appeared but it was transients who waited by the gate for everyone to leave before securing it themselves at 1:30am. The dockmaster was informed the next day and I am told he said this would be investigated and dealt with.

If Liberty Landing is going to continue to risk the reputation of their marina by running these cruises without proper security lining the docks and escorting guests to land, I would strongly encourage anyone staying there to be sure they are awake and standing by their vessel if a booze cruise is planned for a night of your stay. Imagine if a boat with people aboard was untied without anyone paying attention. It could have happened just as easily.
 
I stopped in twice last weekend. Once was Friday night for fuel. I had to put my boat in a very tight space on the dock, between two large ships, but no big deal.

On Saturday/Sunday, I had a bit of an adventure. Cam in to get fuel again (Saturday ended up being a lot longer trip than planned). There was a 25 footer taking up the only place for gas. So I had to go to the T dock at the end of the fuel dock. Long story short, the automated fuel system was down. Ended up sending my passengers back to their cars in a cab and spending the night. A lot of people were up until very late at night playing music and partying, but not really loud.

Sunday AM, the dockmaster woke me up and informed me I would be paying for dockage as well as my fuel. I thought that unreasonable, and when we discussed it again he was kind enough to wave the dockage, considering the situation. So, I was as happy as I could be in the situation.

I also noticed the unlocked/open gate all night. Not something I would be happy about if I was docking there with any regularity.

Liberty is the calmest marina on the lower Hudson, to be sure, but Lincoln Harbor has a MUCH better view of the NYC skyline, being directly across river from the empire state building. From my dock, I can see from World Financial, all the way up to the upper west side. Very pretty. But the downside is the ferries, which cause rock and roll up until about midnight.
 
The fuel dock is never locked. You best bet is to ask for a slip off c dock to avoid all that mess.
 
Anthony,

You were that low on gas that you couldn't make it back to LH and then back to LL in the morning? Shame on you.
 
And for that reason they had every right to charge you a nite's stay. It says quite a bit about how accomadating they can be. We've enjoyed staying there also, and to be honest we won't go back on the 4th because their rates are sky high for what they offer. The fireworks view from the marina is poor and there really isn't that muh else to justify the stay on that weekend. If you go out and come back in it can be good but in light of the regs associated with viewing fireworks I have to wonder about doing it.
 
Lincoln Harbor has the best marina view of the fireworks on the Hudson. Two barges are directly outside the entrance.
 
If they are on the Hudson. The year we went they were in behind the Statue, and on the East River.
 
You really can't see the fireworks too well from anywhere on the Hudson when they are on the East River, which is usually where they are.
 
I'm thinking Lincoln Harbor even if it is rough there. But if they are at the South end of Manhattan then LL would be a good bet also. Just too damn pricey. They usually have 3 or 4 day minimums at a high rate for the 4th.
 
Lincoln Harbor has the best view of the fireworks on the Hudson. My slip is on E dock, which is one dock in from the river. There were 3 barges within 1/4 mile of me last year, one directly across from me, and one 45 degrees to the left and 45 degrees to the right. The fireworks are on the Hudson this year.

Really sums it up.
 
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Originally posted by boatbum

I'm thinking Lincoln Harbor even if it is rough there. But if they are at the South end of Manhattan then LL would be a good bet also. Just too damn pricey. They usually have 3 or 4 day minimums at a high rate for the 4th.






How much is the Lincoln Harbor? Do they also have minimum stay requirements?
 
We have not checked in a couple of years. But I would not be surprised if they both had minimums. Best call. Last time we went to LL it was a wallet burner and the display was on the East River and behind the Statue. At least we could walk to the park and see some but the crowds were thick.
 
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