lose suction on Marine Air March pump

PatSea

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I tried to winterize my Marine Air unit today and couldn't get the pump to pump in the anti freeze. I ran the unit first and it pimped fine. I shut off the intake eater valve, took off the pump intake hose and used a funnel to pour in the znyi freeze. The pump would not pump it through the unit. Then I out the hose back on the pump, opp opened the water galvr and now it won't pump in lake water. Very frustrated. It must be lack of otome. Suggestions?
 
It's a pump that has to be flooded to work (full of fluid).

I have a small hand pump that I use to pump antifreeze thru the system from the discharge side.
 
There is nothing wrong with your pump. They aren't self priming, so they won't pump antifreeze the way you tried to do it. Now the pump has lost it's prime and won't pump seawater. The easiest way to do this is to re-connect everything, go to the side hull discharge, make sure the seacock is open, and pump antifreeze thru backward. You're done when you see antifreeze come out the bottom of the hull thru the water pick up. You might have to re-prime your pump in the spring to get it working again. This method is easiest because you don't run the pump or disconnect anything.
 
I found the cause of the problem. A small piece of the magnet in the pump assembly had broken off, jamming the pump. I removed the broken piece, reassembled the pump and it pumped fine,although with a little vibration. Got the system winterized. Will I need a whole new pump, or can I buy the magnet only?
 
I think you can buy the pump assembly without the motor.
 
Are you sure it s a piece of magnet? I ve seen the hard plastic impeller loose a piece but never th magnet,

In any case you order just the impeller / magnet assembly, not even the whole pump assembly, there is also a small plastic shaft and a plastic washer in there.

At least on the 1000gph version
 
Pascal, yes no doubt its a piece of the magnet broken off. The shaft, washer, and impellor are all OK. Where can I order the magnet/impellor assembly?
Its very strange that the pump was working properly moments before I took the hose off to pour in the anti freeze.
 
FWIW - When winterizing these A/C pumps I just open the intake hose to pump and vacuum out all the water from each discharge through hull (3 in my case) while plugging the other two till you only get air. Then just leave the drain plug out at the base of the A/C pump and yo are set for the winter. Works well these past 20+ years here in NY.
Hope this helps
 
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Originally posted by smitty477

FWIW - When winterizing these A/C pumps I just open the intake hose to pump and vacuum out all the water from each discharge through hull (3 in my case) while plugging the other two till you only get air. Then just leave the drain plug out at the base of the A/C pump and you are set for the winter. Works well these past 20+ years here in NY.
Hope this helps




 
I Don't doubt that removing the water from the lines through vacuuming or blowing out the water works fine. I just feel better knowing that the lines are full of pink pop. It takes all of 10 minutes and 1/2 Fallon of anti freeze.
 
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Originally posted by PatSea

Pascal, yes no doubt its a piece of the magnet broken off. The shaft, washer, and impellor are all OK. Where can I order the magnet/impellor assembly?






Google Depco Pump. You order the entire wet end assembly.
 
Depco is always a good source for parts and pumps although I ordered the spare impellers from my local West store,
 
"I Don't doubt that removing the water from the lines through vacuuming or blowing out the water works fine. I just feel better knowing that the lines are full of pink pop. It takes all of 10 minutes and 1/2 Fallon of anti freeze."

You should always do what makes you sleep well at night. But for kicks take the half gallon container of pink stuff and leave it nearby and handy outside and check it on the coldest morning or your winter. You will likely be surprised as to how little it resembles a fluid - try and make sure no other water was left in the system to dilute the pick stuff. Not easily done on a multi unit manifold but can still be small problems with a single pump and line.

Hope this helps
 
I've looked at a gallon if the pink anti freeze left out in the bitter cold winter, and yes its far from a liquid. I'm not a chemist but my understanding is that it doesn't change to the solid state and expand until it reaches -50.
At any rate most of the boats around my area (lake Erie) use the -50 pink anti freeze with no problems of burst plumbing.
 
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Originally posted by JimPend

It's a pump that has to be flooded to work (full of fluid).

I have a small hand pump that I use to pump antifreeze thru the system from the discharge side.






That's how I do it too. Quick and easy.
 
I think the easiest way to winterize the AC is to do it in the water just before you come out. That way it's already primed, just close the seacock and pour pink into the strainer until it comes out the thru hull. It's harmless and avoid the priming issue.
 
Except most pumps won't pull antifreeze thru when you try to do it that way.
 
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