Old Boat Wax

BillyK

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Hi all,

I gotta try to shine up or at least lessen the dull fiberglass from the rub rail up. I don't have a lot of time or experience or money for that matter. What combo compound/wax can I use to get the best results with the least work, until the fall. Also what boat soap do you guys use? Reminder - It's a 1977 Chris Craft.

Thanks,

Billy K.
 
Billy the garrys wax had always worked well for me. I would do a seperate compound them wax though
 
Any decent results require, time, money and well both. There is no quick fix don't use that Poly(Crap)Glow that you paint on! It will yellow and you will need floor stripper to eventually get it off.
Bill
 
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Originally posted by Billylll

Any decent results require, time, money and well both. There is no quick fix don't use that Poly(Crap)Glow that you paint on! It will yellow and you will need floor stripper to eventually get it off.
Bill






And LOTS MORE MONEY!
 
It must be funny friday. I'll give it a good bath and wait till it cools down.

Billy K.
 
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Originally posted by BillyK






Try the 3M cleaner or restorer waxes. I use Turtle Wax car soap a lot. Cheap, cleans well and doesn't strip of your wax.

As others have said, there is no cheap easy way to restore faded gelcoat.
 
Buff Magic and Pro Polish Applied with random orbital buffer. You can get an acceptable buffer at Harbor Frt. $59 less 20% coupon. For less than $100 and a days work it can look great
 
WTF - Billy I had brain freeze this AM. I said Tommys, but but maybe it is Garry's ?
 
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Originally posted by walterv

Rough crowd here today :)






All is well Walter, a lot of times guys here know things I don't. I take the good with the sad, I mean bad.

Thanks for the Gary's, I'll let you know how it turns out.

Billy K.
 
If the gelcoat is very faded and chalky Buff Magic is a waste of time and money. It's just not aggressive enough. With 3Ms restorer wax, or another brand of combined wax/compound, you are compounding and waxing at the same time. For a fast and some what cheaper job on old gelcoat that would be the way to go.

Then later on you could do a proper multi-step refinishing job if you still wanted to.
 
There is a product called Tru Grit, you can get it at any detailing supply store. Not expensive at all. I used it on my old 72 Glastron to restore the faded green. Brought it back to an amazing shine. From that point on, you can use a spray wax just to protect it. Worked great for me.
 
If the boat is chalky, then buffing would not be my first choice. You can buff it and it will look much better but it's not going to last long. Wet sanding will be much quicker. Oxidized gelcoat is more than just on the surface. It creates pits. For a good shine and one that will last; all the gelcoat has to be removed to the depth of the pits. At that point it will shine almost like new. Wax/sealants do not work well on oxidized gelcoats. On good gelcoat they may last 3-6 months. On oxidized gelcoat they may last 4-8 weeks.
 
I'm not a pro detailer by any means, but doing cars is a hobby of mine for more years than I care to remember. Including getting them ready to show in some cases.
My experience with cars helps me do a pretty decent job on the tired old finish on my boat every spring. Some might say that it's as good as most pro detailers could do given the age of the finish, and a lot better than some.
There is no easy way to do a really good job.
The outcome will only be as good as the surface pprep.
For a quick, and very decent looking job with an easy to use all in one product you could try Garry's Cleaner Wax. I use it sometimes on spots during the season, and I see that a lot of "Detailers" and Marina's use it on their customers boats because it is a one step product that looks good fast. It has a heavy solvent content which cleans the surface pretty well and leaves a pretty nice shine. Open the jar, take a whiff, and you'll smell the solvent. Just don't ever put it anywhere near a car's much more delicate finish.
A better long term solution is to deep clean the finish with a polish (or compound if needed) to bring the shine up. Always go with the least aggressive polish first, before going to a compound. If the surface is not really bad, a good polish will do the job. If it is really bad or has a lot of surface scratches than it will need to be wet sanded. I would not try to wet sand if you have never done it before.
Think of compounds and polishes in terms of sanding a piece of wood with compound being the heavy grit, and polish being a finer grit. Today's compounds and polishes have diminishing abrasives in them that break down as you work it with a buffer. They leave very little, if any, residue when used with a rotary buffer.
The compound will do heavier work but take more from the surface, and the polish will do the lighter stuff and produce a deeper and smoother shine.
Real good, and lasting results will require a wool pad and decent Rotary buffer. I use a Makita 9227, but lots of guys do real well with the cheapo version from Harbor Freight. A rotary buffer is a great thing to have, and although you should never go near a car with one unless you know what you are doing, the gel-coat on a boat is a lot tougher and a good place to practice.
Don't waste your time or money on a random orbital type machine. I have a couple of high end ones I use on cars all the time and they are fantastic, but they are useless for real surface correction on the boat.
If you compound, then follow with polish. If you polish, then follow up with wax or sealant to protect the surface.
Lot's of people get confused and may think that polish and wax are the same thing because of the way some products are marketed. They are not really the same. A polish corrects the surface, and a wax protects it. While a true wax is generally a carnauba based product, sealants that are made up of synthetics are also used to protect these days. The sealants are usually a little longer lasting, but a lot of people think the carnauba based stuff gives a deeper shine.
If you use the Garry's, you will get better results using it with a rotary buffer and wool polishing pad. That's what most of the pro's do.
A lot of spots above the rub rails are tough to get at with a machine on most boats. But your boat sounds pretty big and you might be able to get to a lot of it with the rotary and just do the hard spots by hand.
Lot's of good products out there, but try to stick with stuff that is made for marine use. I have a couple of garage shelves full of stuff that I use on cars, but as great as it is for them it just doesn't hold up on boats.
 
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