oxidation now splotchy

drpete3

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Yesterday I used my harbor freight polisher with a white wool pad and 3 m oxdation remover and wax. The name is somthing like that. The boat lookls a lot more shiny but it looks splotchy.

My thought is i may need just rubbing compound followed by a polish then wax. Am I on the right track?

Mike I am looking for your imput here. this is a 1987 blue 4winns and is heavily oxidized.

If I use a rubbing comopound will the boat be a little shiny after that? very shiny ? dull?
 
Is it a high speed buffer or a random orbit buffer? High speed buffer and 3M Finesse-It works best for removing oxidation and putting a shine on things. Orbitals are good for applying wax.
 
Blotchiness suggests you still have a fair amount of oxidized surface that needs to be removed via compounding. A boat of that age will probably need a fairly heavy compound followed by a finer polish. The one-step polish/wax is a very mild polish. Try 3M Super Duty Compound followed by Finesse-It then wax.
 
Dive daddy that is my thought too (persistent oxidation) but I am new to the so I am looking for your advise before I go further. My polisher is a high speed 7 inch rotart sander/ polisher. How careful/aggressive should I be with a heavy duty compound? I dont want to do damage.

Instead of finesse it can I use meguiares polish? I already have a new bottle that I picked up somewhere.

My next thought was to use a full on rubbing compound then this polish but I wanted some one with experience to say thats OK. Then obviously wax too.

Final question. where locally can I find new 7 inch wool pads? Places like walmart autozone hardware stores dont seem to have what I need. Even west marine doesnt have what i want and I dont want to go on line just due to the delay in shipping.
 
First, read Mike Ryan's sticky post at the top of this Forum, something like Proper Procedure for Buffing".

Next, equipment:
You definitely want a rotary buffer, and you want one with enough power to maintain the proper speed at load. What is the RPM rating on your buffer (it should be on the plate on the tool)? What is the power rating? Does it have a variable speed adjustment?

For pads, compounds, polishing agents etc, you want to find a good local auto color or auto paint store. If you don't know of one, check the yellow pages.

Compounds and polishes - basically the same thing. They work by abrasion, like sanding but in a cream form. The differences are the grit and the primary agents. The brownish products use silica, the white are generally alumina. Some steer away from silica (brown) fearing that it discolors the gelcoat. So long as you polish with a finer white polish afterwards there shouldn't be any problems. Meguiar's makes fine products, but other than their waxes I don't know which one when. If you have a product called "polish" it is likely a very fine abrasive much like Finesse-It. Personally I lean towards 3M compounds and polishes because I know which one I want - just less personal confusion. Both are good suppliers. I do prefer Meguiar's waxes - Flagship Premium after the compounding and polishing are done. Collinite is another boaters favorite, but a bit more work and not very forgiving of poor surface prep.

As a suggestion, once you have everything ready, pick a modest size area where you have obvious blotchiness and work through compounding and polishing. The stand back and critically inspect - how does it look ? If it doesn't look well polished, smooth and good natural gloss but still shows signs of blotchiness or a dry rough look, then the surface hasn't been adequately smoothed yet. Don't get discouraged - it may take a few tries to get the hang of it and know how much compounding is needed to restore the finish.

If you have ever polished a car, gelcoat is much thicker and harder than auto paint. It's about 5-6 times thicker and is quite hard. Things to be careful of are running the buffer in one spot leading to heating and "burning" the surface - keep the polisher moving. When it comes to sharp edges and corners, don't polish directly on the edge - approach it from both sides to the edge point - edges tend to be the thinnest areas. If things tend to dry out before they are adequately polished add a bit more compound/polish or mist lightly with water . Keep it moving, keep it very close to flat (slight tilt up on the left side is good) and take your time. I also find it easier working on boats with all the hardware and inside corners to remove the handle from polisher.

Read Mike Ryan's procedure.
 
Unless the boat is really heavily oxidized, you should be able to by with just the Finesse. Just keep the buffer moving so you dont burn thru.
THose combination oxidation/waxes are not aggressive enough.
I think you did everything right, but just didnt use the right stuff.
 
I did read Mike post and have committed it to memory. I also didnt realize, the first time through, that I need to spurr the pad after each 2x2 section.

I really appreciate your time to post to my questions and I now have all of the stuff and plan to go at it again sat morning. I agree that I may have just used the wrong stuff and up close it looked like I was getting the job done but after I walked away and looked, it just wasnt good enough.

FYI the boat is heavily oxidized and i now have my compound as well as the polish but come to thinkl of it I may not have the wax. Alos the rotary buffer I use is heavy duty variable speed up to 2500 rpm I think.

One final question. what should the surface look like before I go on to the polish step?

Shiny with only swirl marks from the pad and compound?
Dull but no oxidation?
Other?
 
quote:

Originally posted by drpete3

Looking good now

thanks for the replies. I worked it out.






Glad to hear it. Sorry I missed your previous questions. Obviously since it worked out you now know ... shiny.
 
Looks good but niow Ill be putting it up for sale. Just bought 3rd boat this year. I just can t pass up good deals
 
can i use my variable speed drill with the 3m wool pad attachment to apply compound, then polish and then wax?
 
Hey John did you ever try the drill attachment? I'm getting ready to do the same thing and was wondering how it turned out. If you did, what product did you use for the attachment?
 
Go to harbor freight and get the 29 dollar polisher sander. It works well.
 
I'll give her a go with a little elbow grease first and see how much work it's gonna take to remove the oxidation. It's only an 18 footer so it shouldn't be too much work.
 
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