Regal vs. SeaRay - Performance?

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In June of 2005, I purchased my first boat--a Regal 2450 (cuddy cabin). Since then, I've put about 70 hours on it in the Seattle area on Lake Washington.

This past weekend, I was in Boise, ID visiting my brother and we went out on his 2005 SeaRay 22' Sundeck (open bow). After driving his boat, I must say the SeaRay was:

1. Much easier to steer (think power steering vs. not)
2. Much more agile in the water
3. Much faster accelerating from stop and from speed.
4. Overall, just much more fun

Both boats have comparable specs--dual prop, 300hp Mercury Mercruiser, etc. I've considered things like wind conditions, number of passengers on boat, etc. We boated in Boise on a lake as well.

Given that these boats are reasonably closely priced, I'd expect the differences to be marginal at best. I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this. Since the Regal is my first boat, I didn't have much basis for comparison.

I called the dealer today that I bought the boat from (under new management since I bought it) but had to leave a message and haven't heard back yet. I'd like to get someone who KNOWS how the Regal should perform to go out on a trial run with me. Is there anything else I should be doing? I considered calling Regal direct, but thought I'd try and work with my local dealer first.

Finally, last winter when I took the boat in for maintenance, they identified a manufacturing flaw where the engine and the driveshaft had not been properly aligned due to missing shims. This was "fixed" and when I got the boat back it felt completely different--like it had been turbocharged. But even now, comparing it with the SeaRay, it still seems sluggish out of the water and not nearly as responsive when turning at slow or fast speeds.

Thanks, and sorry this got so long...

Greg
 
well start with both manufacturing sites. you are comparing a 22 bowrider with a 24 cuddy cabin. there will be a difference in weight possibly beam. compare your boat to 240 sundancer in price and they are not that close anymore but handling wise closer. of course if you do not have power steering then that will be a big difference.
 
There are several different issues to consider. First there is a 2 foot difference in LOA, but the weight is similar in both boats (Regal 2450 = 4500 lbs dry vs SeaRay = 4300 lbs dry). Then I would look at the tanks and how full they were. SeaRay's gas tank holds 50 gallons vs 68 for Regal. Water tank for the Sea Ray is 10 gallons vs 18 for the Regal.
 
What's the shape of the hulls? I'm assuming both are V shaped but what is the difference in the degree of deadrise? If the Regal has a couple more degrees of deadrise over the SR, that will turn into the loss of at least several MPH just by itself.
I may be wrong but I'm guessing that SR Sundeck has a fairly flat bottom and a flat bottom makes for a lot more speed.
 
Actually the SeaRay is listed at 21 degrees of deadrise as is the Regal. I never would have thought that a deckboat would be sporting that kind of deadrise...
 
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Originally posted by kboat0

Actually the SeaRay is listed at 21 degrees of deadrise as is the Regal. I never would have thought that a deckboat would be sporting that kind of deadrise...

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That surprises me as well. I would have thought that the SR deadrise would have been at least 6-8, maybe even 10 degrees less.
 
Below are some numbers from tests performed by Boating Life Magazine.

Sea Ray 220 Sundeck Regal 2450 LSC
PERFORMANCE PERFORMANCE
Test Engine: MerCruiser 5.0L MPI Alpha I Test Engine: Volvo 5.0L GXI 270-hp
Test Prop: Vengeance 14 x 19, stainless steel Test Prop: Volvo Duo Props F-4, stainless steel
Test Load: Fuel (42 gal.); People (385 lb.) Test Load: Fuel (18 gal.); People (400 lb.)
Top Speed: 47.8 MPH rb2rb2@gr5tgr5t 5,000 RPM Top Speed: 48.2 MPH rb2rb2@gr5tgr5t 5,000 RPM
Time to Plane: 4.3 sec. Time to Plane: 3.8 sec.
Time to 30 MPH: 10.1 sec. Time to 30 MPH: 8 sec.
Minimum Planing Speed: 18.5 MPH rb2rb2@gr5tgr5t 2,600 RPM Minimum Planing Speed: 19 MPH rb2rb2@gr5tgr5t 2,400 RPM
Noise at Idle: 68 db Noise at Idle: 88 db
Noise at 30 MPH: 83 db Noise at 30 MPH: 92 db
Cruise Stats: 84 db; 35 MPH rb2rb2@gr5tgr5t 3,750 RPM Cruise Stats: 92 db; 34 MPH rb2rb2@gr5tgr5t 3,750 RPM

POWER CURVE POWER CURVE
RPM MPH RPM MPH
650 4.8 600 4.0
1,000 6.8 1,000 6.0
1,500 8.9 1,500 7.9
2,000 10.1 2,000 11.6
2,500 14.3 2,500 19.8
3,000 27.4 3,000 25.5
3,500 31.2 3,500 30.4
4,000 37.3 4,000 36.7
4,500 45.3 4,500 44.4
5,000 47.8 5,000 48.2
 
hmmm, not that I expected that (against a deck boat) but it looks like the Regal is faster all around.
 
Not even sure why the comparison.

The 2450 is 3 feet longer, 300 pounds more in weight, holds 18 gallons of more fuel plus when you are talking about a cuddy cabin in the real world, all the 'stuff' that you store in it.

ie: at this size, we are talking about apples and oranges.
 
Are your trim tabs extended all the way down? Thats good for getting on plane but once you get going you need to bring them up. Just a thought since fully extended tabs at speed could cause most of the issues you bring up.
 
Trim tabs are not available on the 2450, or so my dealer says. Even though the numbers (Hard to compare on what I posted as the formating got messed up) suggest that the Regal out performs the Sea Ray in plaining time, time to 30mph, and top end.
 
kboat0--thanks for the detailed information. I will take those numbers out with me this Sunday and see how close my performance is. One thing to note on all this--my brother's boat was very low on fuel at the time and I typically run at 1/2 tank or more, so that is one factor that's going to make a difference here. Still, in my gut, I don't believe my boat is performing as it should and I'd like to get to the bottom of the issue.

Greg
 
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