Rogue Wave question

Dan, I still wish you would have tried the Ubiquiti RocketM2 (MIMO) with the dual pol Omni.
There is a significant increase in performance using a MIMO radio with a dual polarity antenna.

Dan as an FYI, WPA2 w/WPS using a "paraphrase" can now be cracked in less than a minute.
Bill
 
Bill the attacks were coming in through the ISP. I do not know if they were using a proxy but they were from all around the world including the Ukraine, Asia etc. based on the IP address.
 
I'm using it now, it suddenly disconnected and would not connect to any hotspot for about five minutes. Each one I tried had 6 - 7 out of 10 bars green for signal strength.
 
It cut out again, took me 6 times to reconnect.

Bill, yes, the wave Ethernet runs into a router that then broadcasts the wifi signal
 
Mike this is worth trying unplug the CAT5 from the ROGUE's POE (the LAN side) to the routers Internet connection. Then plug it in to any spare LAN jack repeat the process let me know what happens.
Power cycle everything, reconnect to an OPTIMA hotspot let me know if this resolves the issue.
 
My version is 7.38.
Today it connected with no issues to the marina wifi.
I didn't have to reenter the phrase.
 
Bill, tried it, got message "This page cannot be displayed"
 
My daughter setup ours yesterday. Not impressed so far. No netflix. Need to troubleshoot next week. That's right no time for boat this weekend.

Soccer later followed by family party. Tomorrow a so get game o. Randall's island. An all day affair
Ugh!!!
 
When mine is connected, Netflix works great.

I used to run track at Randall's Island, back when I was in high school
 
Billy, it says upgrade firmware next to my version. Should I click that?
 
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Billy, it says upgrade firmware next to my version. Should I click that?

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Dave I doubt it will upgrade using the link next to the current software revision. You will need the latest software file loaded into your laptop to transfer it to the ROGUE. I don't have access to my files to upgrade the units they are on my server.
I believe Kurt (MIXMAN) has the latest upgrades for the B&G only ROGUE units. If it's not broke I wouldn't attempt fixing it. There have been occasions where the unit needs to go back to the factory for the latest software revision.
Hogan's got the latest B,G & N model ROGUE. I believe your unit is the B & G model only.
 
Yes, I have 7.51 for the B/G versions. Richard warned me that some users have had problems upgrading. I've got two units and am familiar with how to factory reset the devices so I'm going to upgrade at least one of my Rogues next week. I just had an antenna problem and used both devices to try and narrow down where the issue is. One is on 7.01 and one on 7.31. There was no performance difference between the two. The only difference was the some minor graphics changes. As Bill said, if it ain't broke...

However, Dave, if you want it e-mail or PM me and I'll send it to you.
 
On a related note, I've come out before as someone who's against streaming movies off of public Wi-Fi. My reason is that I used to run and support a marina network. Even with a business-class connection from the local cable company it didn't take long to clog the bandwidth up and then all I got were complaints. How many of you are regularly streaming movies and such with good results? The highest bandwidth plan I see from Comcast currently is 150Mbps download. That bandwidth will not be realized on a boat in a marina setting, so let's say you've got great line-of-sight and are getting 100Mbps. An HD video stream needs around 5Mbps. So once boat number 21 starts streaming nobody has 5Mbps any longer. Are the "streamers" here having any buffering issues at all or not?

Note: I'm not against streaming. I do it at home sometimes. I'm probably going to watch the Belmont in a few minutes by using my Slingbox connecting to my house (we're at anchor) via Verizon LTE as I'm too lazy to try and tune in my locals on satellite (I have to change the angle of the dish from the satellite that has most of my programming).
 
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On a related note, I've come out before as someone who's against streaming movies off of public Wi-Fi. My reason is that I used to run and support a marina network. Even with a business-class connection from the local cable company it didn't take long to clog the bandwidth up and then all I got were complaints. How many of you are regularly streaming movies and such with good results? The highest bandwidth plan I see from Comcast currently is 150Mbps download. That bandwidth will not be realized on a boat in a marina setting, so let's say you've got great line-of-sight and are getting 100Mbps. An HD video stream needs around 5Mbps. So once boat number 21 starts streaming nobody has 5Mbps any longer. Are the "streamers" here having any buffering issues at all or not?

Note: I'm not against streaming. I do it at home sometimes. I'm probably going to watch the Belmont in a few minutes by using my Slingbox connecting to my house (we're at anchor) via Verizon LTE as I'm too lazy to try and tune in my locals on satellite (I have to change the angle of the dish from the satellite that has most of my programming).
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Kurt since all the Cable access points are at a minimum dual band 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz and all are at least 2 radios supporting MIMO or dual streams the air link speeds close to the AP`s are quite good. The vast majority of the users are close in and make use of the 5.8 GHz band leaving plenty of spectrum (2.4GHz) for distant/ remote (boat) use.
The Cable Alliance hotspots have a typical backhaul of >100mbps. I support the use of N radios (MIMO) for remote use. Using a B or G (SISO) remote radio limits your speed and the AP must slow down when a G client negotiates access with the AP. Typical close in airlink speeds are 300mbps per each N radio.
Combining the use of dual polarity with MIMO allows the remote client the ability to double the airlink speeds as well as minimize fading if both verticle and horizontal antennas are used.
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I keep forgetting about the 5.8 band. It was years ago when I installed and supported a 2.4 network. We were also using a Comcast Business Class connection that I think was well under 100Mbps at that time. With luck perhaps I'll start to see some better networks from MD and south in the near future.

Bill, you'll like this; 2 or 3 years ago we stopped at an expensive Marina on the Chesapeake for a few days. Dockmaster was very proud of the Wi-Fi system they had just installed, yet my reception and performance realized wasn't very good. When I walked past the office I saw two issues for them to address: First, the two omni antennas shouldn't be on the sides of the office mounted waist high to the pier. Second, the Rogue Wave units that were the APs (not plain Bullets, but Rogue branded) shouldn't be mounted so low I could easily bend over and unscrew both of them in under 30 seconds!
 
Kurt, I have deployed both 2.4 & 5GHz N AP's in marina applications.
It sounds like the marina you looked at did a do it yourself installation?
There are big things happening in the world of WiFi especially the devices
HetNet 2.X, MuMIMO (multi-user MIMO), 3x3 AND 4x4 MIMO radios and a whole host of consumer devices that are centered around using 802.11ac (5GHz} with up to 160MHz of channel bonding.
Most video streaming at my old marina was done at 5.8GHz.
A good modern marina installation can have numerous 802.11ac AP's mounted close to the vessels. Because 5GHz propagation is limited re-using the bonded channel banks is possible.
Even with the new 802.11ac AP's they still support 2X2 MIMO with one radio at 2.4GHz.
There is also a system out that places all the AP's on the same channel they are timed via GPS and a proprietary system controller. There are some really exciting innovations just being deployed with WiFi, not to mention LTE-U or LTE-AA which may share the 5GHz WiFi band, although this will probably be for in-building initially. applications.
 
Sadly,Bill, that was an outsourced installation. I was amazed they paid money for it. I truly have yet to run across good public or marina Wi-Fi. In FL most places I've visited us Beacon Wi-Fi and it's horrible. In MD I haven't seen branded so I guess it's either self-installed or installed by people who have no clue what they're doing. This is why we have satellite TV on the boat for entertainment and two Verizon unlimited data accounts for remoting to the office and such.
 
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That's been the general consensus about Beacon. I understand they are all over the place even in Maine.
With Cloud based system metrics & management, N MIMO dual radios and high speed FIOS or Cable backhaul there's little reason for poor marina WiFi installations.
You really can't compare a Starbucks WiFi to a marina WiFi. However there are many great products and systems for marinas but they cost money $$$ and require a site survey, design, proper integration with high speed backhaul and a professional installation. You can't expect a simple Linksys modem/ AP located in the marina's main office to provide any degree of quality service to the slip holders.
Kurt we both know of a marina in Baltimore with a very high quality fiber backhaul circuit that won't spend even $1k to provide the RF transport of their quality internet pipe to their slip holders and visitors. So here is a case where the pipe to the Internet is huge but it's not being used for the benefit of the vessels that pay big money to slip there. I have also found that cliques within marina or everything is done via the directors almost always get it wrong. It's frustrating for me because I know what it takes to deliver high quality WiFi to the slips at marinas it's an industry of self proclaimed experts. If that were true then there should be more marinas with quality WiFi service........
 
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Originally posted by BillylllLinksys modem/ AP located in the marina's main office to provide any degree of quality service to the slip holders.
Kurt we both know of a marina in Baltimore with a very high quality fiber backhaul circuit that won't spend even $1k to provide the RF transport of their quality internet pipe to their slip holders and visitors.
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The last I heard they did upgrade from the Lynksys so that now the entire lobby in the office is covered :-)

As for your "backhaul" comment, I brought that up to a certain "app developer" you and I both know and he told me "backhaul doesn't matter". Kinda makes me not trust his app :-)
 
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