Stabil vs Seafoam

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Any difference? On my lake there is now nothing BUT E10 in all the marinas...
 
I don't recall Seafoam being any kind of treatment for E10. Stabil does make a E10 treatment that I have used.
A lot of people swear by Star Tron treatment.

None of the magic mouse juices work once phase separation occurs in the tank though. So your best bet is to not let the gas sit around to long in your tank.

"Even under ideal storage conditions, E10 gasoline has a "shelf life" of just 30 to 45 days. After that the ethanol and gasoline start to go their separate ways. During the season this isn't a problem as long as you use your boat often and run the tank as low as you dare before refueling so the gasoline is always fresh."
 
Personal preference? I can't speak personally to SeaFoam. Others in the marina use it and love it.

I use the marine Stabil because it is 1/2 the price/gallon at Wally World and specifically addressed E-10 issues. I also use MMO as a top end lube.
 
MSDS

Sea Foam

SECTION 2 - COMPOSITION/INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
Ingredients CAS # Wt.%
Pale Oil 64742-54-7 40.00 - 60.00 N/Av >15000 mg/kg >5000 mg/kg
Naphtha 64742-49-0 25.00 - 35.00 N/Av >5000 mg/kg N/Av
IPA 67-63-0 10.00 - 20.00 17000ppm 4720mg/kg 12890mg/kg

STABIL

**** SECTION 2 - COMPOSITION, INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS ****
Chemical Name, CAS, MIN, MAX
Additive Mixture, (none), 0, 5
Petroleum Distillate, 64742-47-8, 0, 95
Miscellaneous:
CHEMICAL NAME LIMIT VALUES
Additive Mixture, (CAS#:Mixture), N/A
Petroleum Distillate ,N/A
 
all snake oils. That includes mm oil.

Send me the money and i cast a spell to keep the devil away from your boat.
 
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Originally posted by Chief Alen

all snake oils. That includes mm oil.

Send me the money and i cast a spell to keep the devil away from your boat.






Source?

Alternatives?

Phase separation is phase separation.
 
I've seen Seafoam clean up my old gunked up Suburban. Nearly smoked out my neighborhood for 10 minutes

Old timers used to do the same with ATF. I'm not THAT old so I used Seafoam.
 
Highly disagree with the ‘Snake Oil’ comment. In the Chicago Metro area we have had E10 for well over a decade. I’ve used both products for distinctly different purposes. StaBil has been used in the boat for winterization of its 96 gallons, recently, last couple of years, I’ve used the marine StaBil in the boat and have NOT experienced any fuel issues after sitting 6 months. Seafoam, .5 oz, is used in the winterization elixir for the boat along with the other fluids. It is also used to clean out small 4-cycle engine carbs as needed. I also use red StaBil in ALL the fuel for the 4-cycle engines year round. This has proven to be the best preventative for carb issues in the winter and summer.
 
anyone ever hear of a "control" group? just because it worked for you means nothing
 
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Originally posted by Ghost

anyone ever hear of a "control" group? just because it worked for you means nothing






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many are now washing the fuel to get rid of scamathol as bizzare as it sounds adding water to the fuel pulls the alky out seems to work well i,m still expermenting to see how well it works its very easy to vacuum the water alky mix off the tank bottom as the seperate from the gas. dont add to many additives as we had one guy melt the fuel filters it got really hot some kind of strange reaction
 
From my understanding when mixing alcohol with gas, the gas is of lower octane. If the alcohol is removed than an octane booster would be required to bring it back up.
 
Seafoam is great stuff if you are trying to clean up a "gunked up" carb or remove carbon from the motor. Pick up a can and read the directions for all of the different usages.
Jim
PS: Don't dump it in the carb at the gas dock. People tend to get stressed about the huge mushroom cloud when you start the motors.
 
I don't see how seafoam can work through the carb. The gunk and varnish builds up in the fuel passages, adding seafoam through the carb cleans up the air passages. The air and fuel are mixed after the jets and there is no chance of a significant varnish buildup past the jets. It may work for carbon on the valves etc but since no lead fuel thats no longer a problem. The fact that it smokes doesn't mean that it did anything beneficial. I remember in the old days pouring water in the carb to "clean the combustion chamber". Sure made a lot of smoke and made people feel like they were accomplishing something, is cheaper than seafoam, and probably as effective.
 
I don't know, Mike. Last season, my port engine wouldn't idle (nothing changed over winter) and nothin I did (e.g., carb cleaner) helped. I don't remember exactly what the instructions were, but my memory (fading) says I used an amount of SeaFoam directly into carb and then poured the other amount into fuel tank. Port engine stumbled a few times, caught, and then continued to run. I vote for SeaFoam!
 
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Originally posted by cmagic99

I vote for SeaFoam!






Yes but for what, cleaning your carb?

Because the OP had to do with ethanol in gas. And as far as I can tell SeaFoam does nothing for that.
 
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