Tolly 44 for sale or give away to Sea Scouts

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DLL

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I have had it. Ed McGrath will soon have the sales contract for our Tolly 44 at WB.

You are a great bunch and I will miss you, but my wife will take care of it...or Ed. I have to take care of my health and spending a 10 hour day wrapping up the survey showed me I am kidding myself.

Take care and God Bless all of you........Dave
 
Dave,

Give me a call when you have a few minutes. It sounds as if you've had a tough time of the survey work. nine two five two six oh oh six six nine
 
This sounds really sad, can you share what has helped you make a sudden change?

Thanks and best wishes, what ever they may be.
 
This is very sad news to me. You have been an important part of this forum, and the one which came before, and you will be sorely missed!

I too was feeling overwhelmed by my boat earlier this year when I was having serious health problems. I'm not out of the woods health wise or financially, but little by little things are getting better. I had an angel named Charlie who got things floating with my boat. Eventhough I still have many problems to solve, I am able to take them one at a time now.

God bless you and your wife, Dave.
 
For those of you who do not know Dave, when he purchased his 44' Tollycraft, he became the "thread-master" of one of the longest and most factually correct and informative threads (IMHO) in BE's history. There was not much that was not covered in every facet of not only boat buying, but also in interpreting survey items, both mechanical and cosmetic, and it's attendant functions as the transaction progressed.

Yachtsmen such as Dave do not come along that often, and I continue to have the utmost respect for him, his knowledge, and thoughtful requests for clarification of issues about which he may have questions.

He is truly an outstanding contributor here, and I salute him.

My best to you, Dave.
 
Dave and Dave,

...and if youse guys need another pair of hands, Email me!
 
Good idea, Charlie [:-angel]

Anything I can do to assist? Being retarded like Charlie---I mean retired---I can come down there too!
 
Party Time!

Oops! Sorry 'bout that. Hard to break old habits[:I]
 
We can have a party, Charlie! We'll just have diet root beer at it!
 
My apologies for not replying sooner.

I am detoxing off morphine/oxycodone/Fentanyl/Demerol and other narcotics the doctors have prescribed. I did not go into details simply because it might sound like a pity party.

I took my last morphine July 19th and .......... I am not sure what to say. Avinza's side effects have damaged major organs and while I don't mind telling people what is going on, some of it is gross. I even quit telling my wonderful wife about it because she is too stressed as it is. But I have life threatening lung problems, kidney problems, urinary tract problems, colon problems, mental problems (my brain does not work like it used to...must be a joke in there somewhere), my CNS is malfunctioning and a few
other things. My lower back is already hurting like it used to. Funny thing is, I know I can't lift things like I used to, but when I needed to put two 8D batteries in our boat, I got mad and the adrenalin over came the pain. I lifted them three times and it was only possible because I got mad at my condition ... adrenalin kicked in and I could do it. Sounds silly now, but sometimes you do what you have to do and pay the "price" later. I know several of you would have helped us, but I hate to bother you.

Opiates can relieve pain and they are wonderful in that respect. But every one of us will react differently. When they did the Oral Surgery on April 10, 2008 (cut the roof of my mouth off and sewed it to my gums - - I drank drano when I was 3 yr old) my opiate intake (with my Pain Med doctors approval) went up to around 450 to 500mg of morphine a day for over a month. My body rebelled and I knew I could not keep up with the Tolly 44 any longer. Brendan Schmidt did the survey and it was his typical high quality. I like and respect him very much, and we have corrected all but a couple of things...like the shaft brush replacement.

I am not proud to say I dumped the Tolly sale on my wife, but I had no choice emotionally or physically. Seeing her stress levels I had to "suck it up" and go back to the boat.
My plan last week was to add water to the batteries and replace the shaft brush. After
putting water in the batteries I fell asleep. She had to drive me home. Part of this is detoxing and we all know that is a battle in itself. I love you guys/gals and if the Lord would fix me right now, we would love to keep the Tolly. Heck, we even named my Service/Medic Alert Dog "Tolly". BTW, she does not leave my side when Chris is gone.
As I think I told you, CCHS can be fatal. Tolly has woke me up at least 4 times now when I fall asleep in a chair. If I am on the ventilator, she lays next to me ... watching me.
She alerted Chris at the boat when I quit breathing. It took them about a half hour to wake me, and that required continuous flow of oxygen. Last week it took her 40 minutes to wake me up... the doctors don't know why.

Guess that sums it up. We have had the Tolly out... 3 times I think since I got so sick
in the fall of 2004. We are hoping to get a smaller boat that Chris can drive if I get sick. Like a 25 ft C-Dory. Trailerable. Maybe in a few months we can actually meet somewhere and let Dave Bar-B-Q some burgers for us. :) Thanks for all the kind words.
 
DLL, why don't you make reservations with your wife and take the Skipper Saver training the next time it's offered, pending any openings? In my opinion anyone that has a husband, wife or partner that does not know how to operate their boat and know what to do in case of emergency is asking for problems and not allowing for the maximum use of the boat. If she likes going out and your health is challenged and makes you feel like you cannot get her back safely the Skipper Saver training will take care of that so if anything were to happen she could get you back and dock the boat or in the worse case drop an anchor and make a call on the VHF.

Lets face it some of us are control freaks but even accidents can happen and would your significant other know what to do if you suddenly had a problem?
 
Bill2, thank you for the kind words. I have that thread on Microsoft Word and still research things from it. I sure learned a lot. Lots of great people like you helped us understand it. Now I know it from stem to stearn, but I can't crawl in there anymore.

Dave, I have meant to call you a couple of times, but the opiates have my mind so messed up I can literally be talking to you and if the phone rings or someone knocks on the door, I won't remember what we were talking about. Very frustrating. I will try to give you a call, I did email you.

Gnarley,
I agree with you and have offered MANY times to hire a Professional Captain to teach her and she always changes her mind. She has "driven" it on the Sacramento River a few times, but when I returned to the Flybridge she quickly moved out of the Captain's seat.
I would tell her she is doing great, but she was not interested. I don't really understand it.
 
DLL, I understand. We hope to take the training this September. Our reason is if anything were to happen to me she has been trained on what to do by a trained professional. I don't care if she drives it or not, though I will also have less repairs. Funny how you described your wife's driving reminds me of mine. I don't how she did it but twice she's backed out of the garage into our cars, drove the RV side into the mailbox and put a hole in the side going about 1 MPH and nearly sank our trailer boat at Shasta after the out drive hit the shallow shore line, though she blames that on food poisoning.

Mine wife is ok going on big open water, I think it gives her a feeling of competency but she bails out before we get into the marina. So I can laugh with you, I really understand but if she really loves you she'd want to do it to make sure she knew what to do by being trained by the power squadron and they do it every year for lots of other people just like you and your wife and me and mine. There really is something different about getting training from another person, I could teach my wife but I think she'll listen to someone else better and I won't get frustrated because I didn't explain it right.

What ever happens, best wishes to you and your wife and I hope you get through your next few days and weeks detoxing with as little pain as possible.

Gnarley
 
Dave,
I am heading to my boat thursday morning at Oxbow and will be around putting in a new windlass through monday. I'm by myself this trip and will be over at the parts store at Riverboat several times and can easily give you a hand. Lifting 8D's is not a lot of fun - I just put new ones in three weeks ago - but I know I can do it! I have been a boater for 45+ years and pretty handy with just about anything, and like all boaters, enjoy seeing other boats and helping fellow boaters when the need arises.

My cell is 775-721-0851 - give me a call and I'll stop by and give you a hand - or at least say hello!

Jim Gibson
 
God bless you too Dave. I understand how you feel. I too should give up my Tolly (24'). I am in my upper
'80s and haven't used the boat in quite a while because it is no longer prudent to leave the slip. It is sad to give up boating after more than 40 years on the Delta. Common sense has prevailed for both of us. But "What is IS". If we ever meet, you can say to me -- My boat was bigger than your boat. Once more Dave, God bless. --A Warren
 
As a woman who has been skippering her own boat for 20+ years, I can remember how it was for me when I first started out! It took guts and a lot of encouragement from my partner for me to force myself to handle situations in which I was uncomfortable or down right frightened! My partner always refused to let me give up; he refused to take the wheel when I begged him to do it. He just watched and only spoke if I was really screwing something up to the point of danger or damage.

And lo and behold, I discovered I really could do it! And as my boating skills improved so did my skills with close quarters in a car! Now I can get my car in and out of spots a lot of guys would be afraid to try! I even back up my car competently by only using my rearview and sideview mirrors.

Your wife CAN learn to be a competent skipper. It takes determination and lots of practice. Just giving her lessons for a day or two and then she never touches the wheel and throttles until an emergency comes up will NOT instill confidence in her abilities. She should do most, if not all, of the boat handling after her lessons for at least a full season. Then the next year you two can split them 50-50. But it takes a determined man to let his wife do it herself, even her mistakes. And never never never yell at her!!!!!

Good luck to all you guys who want their wives to be competent boat handlers and even more luck to your wives! Please feel free to email me should you wish to discuss this further. Especially any wives who need to be encouraged. Believe me, if I can learn it, anybody who can learn to drive a car can learn to drive a boat. It is harder, but doesn't take more brain cells for one then the other!!!
 
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