Introducing the "Major Decision"

Understood, but I thought people say once salt water is in there for any length of time, the damage is done and it won't matter much at this point. 180 hours of salt use.

Now, my boat is a different story as it was fresh water use and has never seen salt.
So I am interested in which grocco flushers you are referring too.
Are those the plastic things that go inline or flushcaps?
Issue with all those things is 1 more point of failure which scares me.

You looking at this item:

http://www.goodboatgear.com/detail/... SSC Series?gclid=COeL2Njy_rUCFag7MgodOyoAFw

I have to see if I have those installed on my setup. I do like the design of that as the flush top is not permanent.

How would you handle starting motors and turning on water? 2 people?
 
While I assume that whatever damage is there will be there, I can't imagine that flushing from this point forward won't prolong the life of the parts. At the very least I will avoid the build up of crud in those parts.

That's exactly what I need to use. The strainers I have don't have an option to replace the tops with ones that have an extra inlet with a ball valve.

The initial plan...
(all this take place after I am sure that water at my dock can keep up with the demand of the engines while at idle)
With the engines off I would close the seacock and insert the adapter with a hose attached. I would put the hose into a 5 gal bucket that already has the hose from the water co running into it (it would be in the bilge right between the two engines). I can then simply start the engine and let it run for 10-15 minutes while I check and clean the engine room (I wouldn't want to risk the engines should the water stop flowing). After the 10-15 minutes I will shutdown the one engine and switch to the other engine to repeat the process. Eventually, I will shut down the second engine, turn off the water from the dock, remove the adapter from the Groco flush and open the seacock. So we are talking about 1/2 hr.

If I go with the above permanently, I will most likely plumb some tubing from inside the lazerette directly to the spot where I will put the bucket so I can just connect the hose to the dockside inlet on the transom and then turn on a valve in the engine room for water.

An good alternate to the above would be to run the dockside water to the fitting and then open the seacock again to allow the fresh water to flow both ways and to be a safety should the water in the supply hose stop for some reason. I'm pretty sure that the water pressure at my dock would make this viable but I need to do some testing first.

Of course I am always open to suggestions.

Jeff
 
My old boat with horizons had a fitting to flush. I just plumb into that and p to lazarette. Since it had quick connects there was no risk. Hook hose up and go.
With the diesels I am not sure on having something permanent and or the water volume needed.
10 to 15 minutes sounds long to run like that.
 
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Thanks, all.

Jeff, With this step up will there be enough slips that fit the both of us and the rest of the regulars? We may need a new hangout. Or we should raft up outside and dink in :)

Dave, I am FWC but I would like to keep the raw water side of the engine (sea water pump, aftercooler and heat exchanger) as clean as possible to mitigate future maintenance/repairs. Considering a new set of aftercoolers is easily a $12K job, spending $400 on couple of Groco Engine Flush Kit and 15 minutes at the dock each weekend.

Jeff

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Jeff,

No more #7 slip for you. We will definitely raft up at connetiquot this season.

Jeff
 
Love code lingo . U guys raft up , Leaves room for us to dock : )

Rob
 
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Originally posted by jeff_c

Thanks, all.

Jeff, With this step up will there be enough slips that fit the both of us and the rest of the regulars? We may need a new hangout. Or we should raft up outside and dink in :)

Dave, I am FWC but I would like to keep the raw water side of the engine (sea water pump, aftercooler and heat exchanger) as clean as possible to mitigate future maintenance/repairs. Considering a new set of aftercoolers is easily a $12K job, spending $400 on couple of Groco Engine Flush Kit and 15 minutes at the dock each weekend.

Jeff

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Jeff,

No more #7 slip for you. We will definitely raft up at connetiquot this season.

Jeff

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Lol. Def have to give up my favorite slip. I guess I have to get used to the inside of that outside bulkhead...or at least Lauren is going to have to learn how to make that leap.

I'm talking with Mike at SS3 in a little bit. Hoping MarineMax can show me some love for one season before I commit to making the move east.

There are going to be a lot of raftups this year. That was part of the plan on buying the bigger boat and the whaler.

Jeff
 
Make sure ur on the canal at ss3 . U dont want to be inside .

Rob
 
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Originally posted by Robski97

Love code lingo . U guys raft up , Leaves room for us to dock : )

Rob

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Rob, don't be jealous. I do think we all are due for a raftup!
 
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Originally posted by jeff_c

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Originally posted by Dani-Lu

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Originally posted by jeff_c

Thanks, all.

Jeff, With this step up will there be enough slips that fit the both of us and the rest of the regulars? We may need a new hangout. Or we should raft up outside and dink in :)

Dave, I am FWC but I would like to keep the raw water side of the engine (sea water pump, aftercooler and heat exchanger) as clean as possible to mitigate future maintenance/repairs. Considering a new set of aftercoolers is easily a $12K job, spending $400 on couple of Groco Engine Flush Kit and 15 minutes at the dock each weekend.

Jeff

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Jeff,

No more #7 slip for you. We will definitely raft up at connetiquot this season.

Jeff

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Lol. Def have to give up my favorite slip. I guess I have to get used to the inside of that outside bulkhead...or at least Lauren is going to have to learn how to make that leap.

I'm talking with Mike at SS3 in a little bit. Hoping MarineMax can show me some love for one season before I commit to making the move east.

There are going to be a lot of raftups this year. That was part of the plan on buying the bigger boat and the whaler.

Jeff

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Jeff,

Mike is a great guy.

Good luck!

Jeff
 
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Originally posted by Robski97

Make sure ur on the canal at ss3 . U dont want to be inside .

Rob

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Rob,

What is the issue with inside?

Jeff
 
Depending on the basin its like bumper boats. The canal is much safer ....Less worries. IMHO

Rob
 
The whole canal or the part north of AYC gas dock.
Seems the canal south gets a lot of wave action.
 
Thanks, guys. But it seems I'm staying out in my own dock space for now. By the time I factor in the cost for the big boat, the little boat, all the additional increases for fuel, weekly cleaning and their estimates costs for service/winterization I can't remotely justify it this year. Which reminds me...I've got to go and write a really big check to close on the new boat right now.

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Jeff
 
Still say AYC is best deal.
Do your own work.
Free winter storage.
Cleanings are like $50
Electric is capped now too at about $200 a season.
Throw in fuel savings of running east and value of renting your slip.

Good luck on close!
 
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Originally posted by jeff_c

Thanks, guys. But it seems I'm staying out in my own dock space for now. By the time I factor in the cost for the big boat, the little boat, all the additional increases for fuel, weekly cleaning and their estimates costs for service/winterization I can't remotely justify it this year. Which reminds me...I've got to go and write a really big check to close on the new boat right now.

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Jeff

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Probably a smart decision if you haven't sold your slips yet.
It would be nice if you could rent them and use the income to spend the summer at AYC.
IMHO: It's a better deal than SS3, if for no other reason than you have a lot more freedom to do things to your own boat.
I know exactly where your spot is. It's a real nice one with great access to the Wantagh Parkway by car, but it's a long ride up and down the canal. Couple the fuel used there and what you use to get east through the 5 MPH zones down to Lindy, and things might work out for you.
I'm a big fan of points west of the Wantagh because I like to fish at the Jones Inlet, eat in Freeport, etc., but in the end I went with the spot east because I love the fact of clearing the canal quickly and not having the 5 MPH zones right there to deal with. I'm a little spoiled now and I don't know if I could deal with a long ride up a canal again.
Fishing at Jones Inlet isn't too bad because I use the smaller boat for that and I can cut through the Amityville Channel to save a lot of time. I still go to Freeport a couple of times a season, but have found that I like the places further east just as much.
Tough choice.
 
Jeff,

Saw your boat today at SS3. I am in the first slip to the left of your boat. She is a gorgeous boat! Love the real teak and huge cleats! If I ever decide to go to a sedan bridge style boat, I will definitely calling you to find out how much you like her after owning her a bit.

Beat of luck,

Jeff
 
Thanks, Jeff

We should be down there Saturday afternoon and pretty much all day on Sunday so hopefully we will see you at some point.

Jeff
 
We are officially AYC tenants now. Took slip B-24 and moved her over to B-26 (temporarily) today.

If we like the Anchorage we will most likely be looking to buy something.

I think I am going to miss getting my fuel delivered the most. Going to the fuel dock is a pita and just another chance to screw up.

For those in the area...come by and visit.

Jeff
 
Jeff, I was at SS3 this afternoon and you were gone. Now I know where you went. Congrats. I kept my first 3 boats at the AYC and would still be there had there been a slip open on D dock for my 410 when I bought it. If you can find something on D dock, buy it. We have a great group of friends on A dock at SS3, so I will stay there as long as my friends are there. Have a great season!
 
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