Need to purchase a new toilet

Mine works well and never gotten clogged, but I'm surprised to hear Bill say that the force of the flush in his is better than a Vacuflush. I've loved the head up to now but that comment makes me wonder... Mine definitely doesn't flush with nearly the same "pull" as a vacuflush. In fact my flushing action doesn't look all that different from the one on the video, except I don't have the bubbling and it does go down all the way every time. But I do fill the bowl up a bit when there are solids to make sure it all goes down.
 
Bill,

>>why won't it fit the Albin 28 is it the full sized bowl and seat?<<

Yes. There's not enough physical space. The head is small, and the bowl would stick far enough out that you'd kind of trip over it stepping into the "room".

Nancy
 
Thanks Nancy the reason I asked is my wife and I were looking at a 28' Albin.
Bill
 
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Originally posted by Veg

Mine works well and never gotten clogged, but I'm surprised to hear Bill say that the force of the flush in his is better than a Vacuflush. I've loved the head up to now but that comment makes me wonder... Mine definitely doesn't flush with nearly the same "pull" as a vacuflush. In fact my flushing action doesn't look all that different from the one on the video, except I don't have the bubbling and it does go down all the way every time. But I do fill the bowl up a bit when there are solids to make sure it all goes down.

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Let me properly explain the combination of the flush and the chopper blades was a much better combination for a medical condition my wife has. I always get in trouble with her on this topic. But with a factory installed new VacuFlush system everytime she had to do #2 the VacuFlush would clog. It did not matter what level I set the water at. With the ME lets just say it eats the pile of golf balls the VF wouldn't touch. With the VF it got to the point she refused to come to the boat, to clear it the only way was to boil a gallon of water stir into the VF bowl let sit then try and flush. About 50% of the time it would work. With the ME it requires the normal flush which is actually 3 short flushes with my controller. We have never had a clog with the ME in 4 plus seasons. I haven't done any maintenance to the ME either. I have spare jokers but haven't needed to install them yet. Trust me the head in my boat gets more work then the Microwave.
Now I'm in deep cr&p with my better half! (only if she reads this thread)
Bill
 
"only if she reads this thread"

I guess I had better quickly tweet her telling her to disregard the e-mail link I sent... [:-bonc01]
 
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Originally posted by Radioactive

"only if she reads this thread"

I guess I had better quickly tweet her telling her to disregard the e-mail link I sent... [:-bonc01]

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Good thing for me no Twitter in this household! Or is it boathold?
Bill
 
The discharge hose in the ME is very flexible, on one install I did, When connecting the sanitation hose to it it got twisted a little, causing it not to flush at all....
 
That would be the black hose correct BarrenRiver, I asked him to check that as well.
Bill
 
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Originally posted by seaeric

We have checked voltage per instruction from Raritan tech. That was fine.

Here are the youtube links: First the sea Era, then the Marine Elegance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPBFrMJfccw&list=UUZgzSynquN56655VSjOkMBQ&index=2&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUP4G4xUots&list=UUZgzSynquN56655VSjOkMBQ&index=3&feature=plcp

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Eric--

Yes indeedy, that is one sloooow dump. But you mentioned in your attached post that you measured the voltage at the head as requested by Raritan and found it to be as expected... 12vdc minimum.

I watched both videos. The Elegance has a problem. What you did not stae in your original post is whether there was an electric head at this location prior to your upgrade.

Yeah, I know, I am beating this to death. THAT TOILET or as someone corrected me earlier HEAD looks to be energy starved. When you measured the voltage, did you measure it WHILE THE TOILET WAS PUMPING???

That sucker (literally) draws 18 AMPERES. If you have measured the voltage under load, it would be nice to measure the current if you know how.

My guess remains that the toilet's power supply is ENERGY LIMITED! It could even be an electrical connection problem such as a loose connection or a poor battery connection or too much voltage drop in the wiring due to wire size. One more thing to consider, If you have measured the voltage under load and found it to be around 12vdc, there is a very good chance that the toilet you installed has a 24vdc pump motor instead of a 12vdc motor.

I do not believe there is an obstruction causing your problem. Notice the difference in the pump noise between the two toilets???

Foggy
 
Eric,

Why do you have to press two buttons to flush the ME? I only press one.
 
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Originally posted by Nancy

Bill,

>>why won't it fit the Albin 28 is it the full sized bowl and seat?<<

Yes. There's not enough physical space. The head is small, and the bowl would stick far enough out that you'd kind of trip over it stepping into the "room".

Nancy

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Yes Nancy, space can be a problem! Wifey and I must get to our boat and measure before I order. At the moment, our choice is the tall (14") unit with the straight back and a single push button.

We will not be able to make measurements until sometime next week. I hope we do not have a fitting problme.

Foggy
 
Eric,

We are anchored in Swan Creek just N of Rock Hall at the moment. Here is my ME flushing a minute ago (just water,folks) on battery power only.

http://youtu.be/zyrav0itkiI
 
yes the black discharge hose for the ME....best thig is try the bucket fuch and narrow it down one step at a time.....I also just serviced an Atlantes a couple of weeks agao that wouldn't flush..it was going thru a "Y" valve...did the bucket flush al was good..something in the valve had it stopped up.....bypassed and allw as good
 
Y valves, 1 way valves can get restrictions from residual toilet paper and sludge slurry especially if you have a holding tank and use no treatment products I use Odorless. My boat wouldn't pump out at the deck fitting at some waste stations and always with the local pumpout boat yet the PurSan worked fine it turned out to be a defective Y valve allowing air to enter only on the deck pumpout side. It was not a lose clamp or bad hose. What a PIA it was troubleshooting that.
It ended up being a cheap Jabsco black Y valve.
Bill
 
Eric you have no holding tank correct? Boy that sure looks like a clogged vent line on a holding tank. This is why I believe you have an air pressure problem between the ME and PuraSan.
Try the Purasan mixer burp test as you slowly loosen the mixer cap you will hear the air escape if it's the problem I think it is.
Bill .
 
Hi Kurt, Thanks for the video. Your ME flushes about like my Sea Era. Looks fine.

To answer other inquiries, I had Raritan Crown heads in place prior to the current install. We checked voltage during flush and reported same to Raritan who said it was fine. A friend of mine flushed this head and said the same as the previous posted that perhaps this is (by mistake) a 24v unit that was marked and sold as a 12v. There should be no blockages in old plumbing here because all of it is brand new, just installed at the same time. Today I will try the test on the PuraSan by loosening that center port on the top to see if there is pressure there.

We are using the 1" discharge line from the ME to the vented loop and into the PuraSan, then 1 1/2" from the PuraSan to the thru hull. We may try increasing the discharge side to all 1 1/2" although the discharge at the ME will still be restricted to the 1" as that is how it's built. Does anyone ever cut off that discharge fitting when they are using the 1 1/2" hose? That would seem to make sense to me.

THANKS TO EVERYONE for your diagnostic help and suggestions! Stay tuned for updates.
 
I use all 1" lines with the exception of my transfer pump to the holding tank and the hose to the deck pumpout. I see no problem with your 1.5" on the output of the Purasan do you have a vent loop on the discharge side of the PuraSan?
Bill
 
Kurt (Mixman) how much lift if any is in your ME system? I have no lift all downhill to the holding tank. My problem was the Purasan with external Hold-N-Treat sits about 18" above the holding tank.
Bill
 
Eric another clue if it's in the PuraSan is the mixer will be bone dry once or if you can fully remove the mixer (center) cap.
Bill
 
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Originally posted by Billylll

Kurt (Mixman) how much lift if any is in your ME system? I have no lift all downhill to the holding tank. My problem was the Purasan with external Hold-N-Treat sits about 18" above the holding tank.
Bill

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About 18". The tank is right in front of the Head (on the other side of the bulkhead) and it is "uphill". I have replaced Joker valves and will have to do so again soon. But it's a very easy job that takes about half an hour.
 
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