Pump Out Boat

Do a search for my old thread about a pump out boat
 
Hogan this is as you said an old post. I'm assuming this is the one you are referring to.
http://www.boatered.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=30090
I think it's worth putting up the link. It's sad that it has been what 8 years and still nothing has happened. What I find interesting is the fact that in many towns they provide this service for free and around here we can't even pay for it if we wanted to. Sad
 
That was one, there was also a longer one that explained the trials and tribulations of that pump-out boat. Bottom line is that it is clear that no county in the Hudson valley gives a crap about providing the service.
 
Dave;

Nothing, I mean NOTHING is for free. You are paying for the service. If not through a direct charge than certainly through your municipal taxes.

Somebody is incuring the cost of keeping a pump-out boat on the river, and Uncle Sam does not have any money other than what he takes from you and I.
 
We can deal with 12 different municipalities and police agencies patrolling Croton Point area, each with their own fully equipped boat, each with three officers on overtime but god forbid we can spare the money for one regular guy in a pump out boat working for a reasonable salary and tips.
 
Couldn't agree more. Only the pump out boat can't issue tickets and create revenue. Not the I have ever seen anyone issued a ticket on the Hudson, just a slap on the wrist.
 
Guys- Please forgive my newbie question, but what's the issue here? Can't you just pump out when you buy fuel?
 
The problem is that the holding tank fills up a lot faster than the fuel tank drains out.

If they want clean water, they have to make pump outs more accessible.
 
Perhaps I'm missing something, but why not have every marina that rents slips have a pump-out system in place to cover the number of boats that are docked in that marina?

This could be paid for either directly or through rental dollars for the members of that marina. Then we would all pay for the waste that we produce.

I love boating, but why should all of the taxpayers of ie: Rockland or Westchester Counties pay for the needs of several thousand boaters?
 
I guess I must have a big tank. That would suck. I remember our day spent in Zach's Bay watch the Blue Angels. The pump out boat kept coming around. We found it odd. Now I think I understand.
 
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Originally posted by PeteMrrs

Perhaps I'm missing something, but why not have every marina that rents slips have a pump-out system in place to cover the number of boats that are docked in that marina?

This could be paid for either directly or through rental dollars for the members of that marina. Then we would all pay for the waste that we produce.

I love boating, but why should all of the taxpayers of ie: Rockland or Westchester Counties pay for the needs of several thousand boaters?

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I'll speak for my marina. Why should we? We only have a few larger boats that would use this service, maybe 10. It would be criminal if we were mandated. Mainly because we are a working club and do not have a fuel dock, dock master or any employees (all volunteer). Maintaining this system would be a nightmare.

There is a ton of money spent on policing the river in an effort to keep it clean and safe. I say if you really want to keep it clean and safe, the state should invest in a pumpout boat.

Heck, if I was retired and looking for a way to make a few bucks, I might consider this as a business opportunity. I know the 10 or so in our marina would happily pay say $20 for a mid-week, hands-off pumpout. If you line up the contracts, one could make $600/day easily visiting three marinas(or less), taking less than six hours.
 
There is a VERY popular anchorage in NJ called Tices Shoal. One of the 5 'Honey' boats, the 'Circle of Life', roams the area every weekend and is busy all day. He makes numerous trips back to shore to pump out his tank. The service if free. I've used it 3 or 4 times. It is VERY convenient.
 
I forgot my point.....IMHO....it's the convenience that helps to create the compliance with the 'no dumping' laws.
 
Tices Shoal... mmmmmmmm!!! I miss that place, haven't been there in years.
 
Set up a boatered 'dumping' raft at Tices,... :) ... it's a great anchorage for an overnight stay on the way to Cape May/Wildwood/Chessapeake/etc..
 
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Originally posted by WALSHIE

I'll speak for my marina. Why should we? . . . Maybe, because you are the folks that created the waste, so perhaps you may feel responsible for the cost of disposing of it.

. . . We only have a few larger boats that would use this service, maybe 10. It would be criminal if we were mandated. . . Perhaps we could set up several categories of marina's. Cat A would be over 40 slips and Cat B would be under 40 slips. All Cat A marinas would be required to have a pump-out.

. . . we are a working club and do not have a fuel dock, dock master or any employees (all volunteer). Maintaining this system would be a nightmare. . . . Chris, this is nothing more than an excuse. We can all come up with reasons as for why we can't afford to pay for things in life. These carry no weight.

. . . There is a ton of money spent on policing the river in an effort to keep it clean and safe. I say if you really want to keep it clean and safe, the state should invest in a pumpout boat. . . . Hell, I have a camper that we keep in a private campground. We have to pay for a service to come in and empty the holdiong tanks on a regular basis, perhaps the State should do it.

. . . Heck, if I was retired and looking for a way to make a few bucks, I might consider this as a business opportunity. I know the 10 or so in our marina would happily pay say $20 for a mid-week, hands-off pumpout. If you line up the contracts, one could make $600/day easily visiting three marinas(or less), taking less than six hours. . . . Somehow I don't think it is quite that profitable. If it was, why hasn't somebody already taken the lead. On the Hudson you may be busy on week-ends, but I think you would starve the other 5 days of the week.

I have no issue with a state run pump-out boat, but we must all remember it cost money to run a boat. Hell we all know that!! We are the same people who would be up in arms any time we read about services rendered or money being spent on a special interest group. This is no different.

Let those who create the poop dispose of the poop. [:-snorkel]

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Since I am based in Tuckerton (Little Egg) the new boat is great however you will be real lucky if can get the old Waste Water II, great captain but too many boats to service. One Marina Shelter Cove will not allow the pumpout boats in their marina. Sure they have a pumpout at the gas dock but they want to make money. I think this should be against the law, it may very well be just not challenged yet. I see no reason why a type 1 can not be used as usual politics not science plays a greater role than logic.
As far as marinas being required that is BS. Our marina has nice bathrooms so why should they provide pumpout services and all the permits and maintenance required to maintain them?
My 2 cents on a very touchy topic.
Bill
 
Pete, you must have missed my thread a couple of years ago about the saga of the Westchester pump-out boat.

To recap: The county got a boat with Federal Funds, it was on the river for 2 weekends, then disappeared. They came up with a lame excuse (lie) that it was broken. I finally tracked down that they decided to move it to LI Sound (where pump-out boats and facility's are everywhere).

They have the boat, they have people to man it, they just don't want to service the river.
 
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