Kurt getting suggestions from the refit company is fine, ultimatums not so good. If I were you I would take the a ala-carte approach. So far they have given you 2 suggestions or must do's(s) that are not required.
Westerbeke vs Onan
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Kurt, I wish I had the ability to come down and rewire the entire boat for you, but it's not physically possible as you know.
FYI my marina called they have a 36 Bayliner that was repowered the owner passed away and the estate gave the boat to the marina. It was repowered after Sandy. They won't even charge us dock fees, winterization and storage but my Cervical and Lumbar are so deteriorated I'm telling them thanks but no thanks.
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FYI my marina called they have a 36 Bayliner that was repowered the owner passed away and the estate gave the boat to the marina. It was repowered after Sandy. They won't even charge us dock fees, winterization and storage but my Cervical and Lumbar are so deteriorated I'm telling them thanks but no thanks.
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I'm sorry but what those folks told you sounds like BS to me. I have not seen voltage drops like that on Westerbekes nor does it makes sense that them would be designed to do that.
Get it up and running and properly test it. I doubt anything is seriously wrong with it.
Those guys may do good work but they might want to rethink their sales pitch.
Get it up and running and properly test it. I doubt anything is seriously wrong with it.
Those guys may do good work but they might want to rethink their sales pitch.
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Bill, this was just the initial consultation. He said 2 units around 14,000 BTU each but he'd check with his marine HVAC people first. I'm thinking 28,000 BTU might be a bit overkill. Too large and units don't run long enough to remove humidity.
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Such BS would make me seriously doubt of their honesty...
westerbeke are just as good as they get.
Trying to remember the layout of your boat... If it only has a saloon and forward stateroom, using two identical aircons doesn't make much sense as the SR will probably be fine with a 9k unit. For the saloon on the other hand, a 16k is probably ideal unless it is really small and has few windows.
I am not a big fan of multiple air handler sharing a single condensing unit. Yes if you have room in the ER, using remote condensors instead of all in one is nice but cost a lot more money... Probably an overkill on a boat that size.
westerbeke are just as good as they get.
Trying to remember the layout of your boat... If it only has a saloon and forward stateroom, using two identical aircons doesn't make much sense as the SR will probably be fine with a 9k unit. For the saloon on the other hand, a 16k is probably ideal unless it is really small and has few windows.
I am not a big fan of multiple air handler sharing a single condensing unit. Yes if you have room in the ER, using remote condensors instead of all in one is nice but cost a lot more money... Probably an overkill on a boat that size.
Kurt the original build sheet and invoice is in one of the aft stateroom drawers, if I remember correctly. I think the sales price as it was equipped was approximately $34k. The current diesel generator was added years after the original sale.
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Lol, I didn't know Kurt had gotten himself a Lazzara ! 
14k btu is too much for that aft stateroom, 9k should be plenty. In the main cabin a 16k should be plenty to keep the galley and forward Vee berth cool as well
Is this a single or twins? If twins I don't think you lol have room to put remote condensors on the ER, even with a single they may be hard to reach. I d stick with all in one ACs, they ve gotten significantly quieter. I got a 16k marvair last year that was on sale from defender for $990, installed it in my saloon forward and it s very quiet. The air handler of the split unit in the back is almost louder
14k btu is too much for that aft stateroom, 9k should be plenty. In the main cabin a 16k should be plenty to keep the galley and forward Vee berth cool as well
Is this a single or twins? If twins I don't think you lol have room to put remote condensors on the ER, even with a single they may be hard to reach. I d stick with all in one ACs, they ve gotten significantly quieter. I got a 16k marvair last year that was on sale from defender for $990, installed it in my saloon forward and it s very quiet. The air handler of the split unit in the back is almost louder
Kurt,
Flagship Marine AC has a sizing guide. I used it to spec my Regal. Its very close. IF you are going to cruise in southern waters, bump it up 1 size. At the time i had my Regal, the option was a 5.5K AC unit. Flagship spec'd at 7500. At the time, units were 5K then 10K. I went to 10 K and in 100+* heat you could hang meat in the cabin. Regal had nothing but complaints with a VERY expensive pathetically undersized unit.
Good luck.
YMMV
Flagship Marine AC has a sizing guide. I used it to spec my Regal. Its very close. IF you are going to cruise in southern waters, bump it up 1 size. At the time i had my Regal, the option was a 5.5K AC unit. Flagship spec'd at 7500. At the time, units were 5K then 10K. I went to 10 K and in 100+* heat you could hang meat in the cabin. Regal had nothing but complaints with a VERY expensive pathetically undersized unit.
Good luck.
YMMV
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Lol, I didn't know Kurt had gotten himself a Lazzara !
14k btu is too much for that aft stateroom, 9k should be plenty. In the main cabin a 16k should be plenty to keep the galley and forward Vee berth cool as well
Is this a single or twins? If twins I don't think you lol have room to put remote condensors on the ER, even with a single they may be hard to reach. I d stick with all in one ACs, they ve gotten significantly quieter. I got a 16k marvair last year that was on sale from defender for $990, installed it in my saloon forward and it s very quiet. The air handler of the split unit in the back is almost louder
He bought mine Pascal, it`s twin 54hp Perkins powered.
L. Keith the ER actually has plenty of ventilation and space even though it's a twin.
The raised Salon/ lower helm needs window treatments to reduce the heat that will be generated from sunlight on the windows. I was thinking more like 12k BTU this portion and 9k BTU for the rear stateroom.
Billy, All machinery spaces are hot (when internal combustion engines are operating) and that heat affects the output of any manufacture's generator. Read this:
https://marine.cat.com/cda/files/4387976/7/LEBW4971-05 (1).pdf
PS Look for this this link in the list
Engine Room Ventilation LEBW4971
https://marine.cat.com/cda/files/4387976/7/LEBW4971-05 (1).pdf
PS Look for this this link in the list
Engine Room Ventilation LEBW4971
Kurt,
ITs a boat . No insulation . Cockpit doors always open. Go with the biggest ac u can. With todays modern controls .. short cycling is a non issue.
I maxed out at 2 16,000 btu units in my boat ( original was 12 and 6 ) u can hang meat on 80 % of the days ... the other 20% SUCK !!!!!!!!!
Anything above 90 degrees and its a lost cause . The entire boat ( not just the living space u see is load to the ac unit ) the hull just sucks in the suns heat....
Rob
ITs a boat . No insulation . Cockpit doors always open. Go with the biggest ac u can. With todays modern controls .. short cycling is a non issue.
I maxed out at 2 16,000 btu units in my boat ( original was 12 and 6 ) u can hang meat on 80 % of the days ... the other 20% SUCK !!!!!!!!!
Anything above 90 degrees and its a lost cause . The entire boat ( not just the living space u see is load to the ac unit ) the hull just sucks in the suns heat....
Rob