did somebody say watch your wake?

He's getting into November Charlie's area. Maybe he will pay SeaDoo a visit?
 
We had the same thing happen last July 3/4 2008 on the Delaware River. It wasn't from a private owner though, it was the US Navy in practice.

The boat threw a 4 - 5' wake right into the marina. The break walls did little to stop it. We hailed on the VHF and were left with a dead response. Nothing at all. You can't miss the boat either. It has a very swept back windshield line, etc.

Edit: Google Navy Mk V

I hope they fine this Seadoo Guy for his actions.
 
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Do we really know if this guy is a SeaDoo Exec? Just because he has the emblem on the back of the yacht doesn't mean he works for them. As far as I know, there's no law against copying a trademark as long as it is not done for profit...
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His identity has yet to be revealed. I would be surprised if SeaDoo lets him off scott-free even if he's not an employee or officer. It's their name and logo he was brandishing. I know that it's a reach to compare the two events, but how happy do you think Ryder was about Timothy McVeigh using one of their trucks in Oklahoma City? It's about having your name associated with an unsavory event. If he IS an officer of the company, well.... You do the math.
 
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Originally posted by cwms

Do we really know if this guy is a SeaDoo Exec? Just because he has the emblem on the back of the yacht doesn't mean he works for them. As far as I know, there's no law against copying a trademark as long as it is not done for profit.

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If you look at my previous post I received an email from BRP Corp. Comm. Stating:
Thank you. This matter has been brought to our attention and we are looking into it.

I would think if they had no involvement with the boat in question they would have stated so
 
One thing you have to remember when you talk about local LE is that the C&D canal is owned by the Army Corps of Engineers. The bridges are also owned by them. As for Bombardier they will be pissed either way. If he works for them that's bad, if he doesn't guaranteed their legal council takes some action...you don't just stand by when something has the smallest effect on your brand.
 
Guys,
As moderator of this forum I can do several things but moving the thread to ATC isn't within my power. I'm going to post a link on ATC; that should help.
 
Man,I am so tempted to sound off about this. But I won't. I've already been stomped on once for complaining about being smashed by a big boat wake.

All I will say is; "I hope they find and hang this guy".

Bob
 
Obviously your thread was on my mind when I started this thread Bob, and even when I witnessed the event on Sunday.

If the owner of the yacht 'works' for Sea Doo/ BRP, he's the highest ranking guy at the company, so some mid level PR hack or intern in legal isn't going to be able to do much to him. Anyways, what's the expression, "no such thing as bad publicity"?
 
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If the owner of the yacht 'works' for Sea Doo/ BRP, he's the highest ranking guy at the company, so some mid level PR hack or intern in legal isn't going to be able to do much to him. Anyways, what's the expression, "no such thing as bad publicity"?

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True, low level employees won't be able to do anything but the Board of Directors have plenty of power to make this guy's life a living hell.
 
Unless he's the Chairman of the Board. But most likely (from my very limited exposure to the mega yacht society) the owner wasn't on board, and a hired captain who will soon be looking for work was running the boat up the coast.
 
Even if the guy is Chairman of the Board, the board has the authority to cause this guy a lot of pain.
But you're right, probably the owner was not aboard and even if he was, he could claim he was down in his stateroom dictating to his secretary when all this happened and was in no way liable for the actions of the captain.
 
The worst part is that if the fool would have just stopped after the fact, his insurance likely would have picked up the tab for the damages - which compared to his fuel bill for the day would be considered trivial, and due to the fact that the no-wake is so poorly marked, that might have been the end of it. Now a no wake violation is turning into an international incident - with a band of vigilante RO's in hot pursuit.
 
The owner was likely onboard, as there are photos of the boat in Baltimore the day before with a number of people on the foredeck. The guys who chased them down also reported a number of people on deck for the first few minutes they followed. Eventually, the decks were cleared and a one-finger salute was offered out of one of the windows. The boat DID slow down as it passed by Summit North Marina on the eastern end of the canal...
 
Has anyone determined without a doubt that SeaDoo is actually involved in this?
 
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Originally posted by rawidman

Has anyone determined without a doubt that SeaDoo is actually involved in this?

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Yes. See post #9 from R'Addiction in this thread. They followed him for 15 minutes and positively identified pictures from YachSpotter and Flikr. Zero doubt whatsoever. If you know the guy, now is the time for him to man up; the hawks are circling in on him from a number of directions...
 
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Originally posted by rawidman

Has anyone determined without a doubt that SeaDoo is actually involved in this?

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Do you mean "See-Doo for Dad" the vessel, or Sea Doo the corporation? Vessel, yes. Corporation, not confirmed from anything I've seen. I think we'd all be surprised if it wasn't an active or former executive that owns this boat, as the company logo is on the transom of this yacht - but not confirmed at this point.
 
It has also been pointed out to me that the flag on the stern is Cayman Island, not Canadian as may have been reported to me previously. Bombardier/SeaDoo is watching this and is NOT happy with the guy using their name and logo. My impression at the moment is that Bombardier/SeaDoo are victims of this as well.
 
Try looking at a 3-1/2' - 4' wake from inside a 19' CC fishing boat. The view is a lot different and it hurts a lot more when it hits.
:)

Bob

PS: As I said in the other thread, thye president and CEO of Bombardier Recreational Products is Mr. Jose Boisjoli. Maybe he should start receiving a shole boat load of emails, snail mails and phone calls about this vessel and the incidents of the past couple of days.

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You know after getting on some guy about getting crushed by a big boat plowing water with a power pole and people saying you are responsible for your wake period...I figured I got my due.....I was there for that and also for some guy near Turkey Point running not right read returning but right up the greens throwing a MONSTER......never saw a five or six foot wake....I did..

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Seems pretty darn suspicios that a CEO at Bombadier is a guy named Pierre Beaudoin; whose DAD - Laurent Beaudoin - just happens to be the founder and Chairman of the Board. If I was a claims agent for Chesapeake Inn, I'd perhaps start with these two?

http://www.aviationweek.com/shownews/01nbaa2/newsmk03.htm
 
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